67 Gil Chocobo Blinkers seriously?

[scaevola]

Y'all are missing the point.

Increased scarcity of plates combined with dropping CPI means many fewer people wanting to upgrade an Empyrean from 90 to 95 AT ALL. Plates may increase in price in the short-term as people who are almost done rush to finish, but after that, then what?

[Mirage]

Valid point, but I'm not sure its completely accurate. If a HmP was buyable with curor for say 10k each (not a hard amount to obtain), needing 1500 plates would cost 15 million curor. Which overall is a hefty amount to acquire. Granted it would still be a lot faster to obtain them then hopeing on a vw drop, but I'm not sure they would be 'all over the place'

And if it is true, the price could be raised. With Hmp Selling somewhere around an avg 100k a plate, the old curor exchange rate would require roughly 38k curor to buy one. So you could raise the price to 30-40k a plate. (45-60mil)

Of course i still think its all ridicules. Would rather undo this nerf and work on alternate ways of removing gill form the system, rather then just making it less generatable.

I know several people with 15 million cruor. So basically, these could just hand in all their cruor (which they probably don't need anymore anyway) and instantly get a lv95 empy. The single most efficient way to get hmp would be to cruor farm. Now if that wouldn't completely kill VW, I don't know what would. Even poor little me would be able to upgrade an empy from 90 to 95 in less than a week. Why would I go to voidwatch, or buy stuff from people doing voidwatch when I can do this? It's faster, guaranteed, and never varies from seller to seller.

I mean I wouldn't mind just being handed a lv95 empy, but it's totally going to kill VW .

[Arcon]

Valid point, but I'm not sure its completely accurate. If a HmP was buyable with curor for say 10k each (not a hard amount to obtain), needing 1500 plates would cost 15 million curor. Which overall is a hefty amount to acquire. Granted it would still be a lot faster to obtain them then hopeing on a vw drop, but I'm not sure they would be 'all over the place'

They would be. Some people could get that in less than a day.

[Asymptotic]

15 million cruor wasn't 150 million gil. It was a bit less than 39 million. 1500 plates was about 59 million cruor.

[Nawesemo]

/em gives fist pump.

[Mirage]

I think one of the problems in this thread is that the concept of money isn't really a very intuitive thing. It is rather a bit abstract, but that does not mean that it is very hard to wrap your mind around it. It does however require that you think about it a bit differently, and engage in some thoughts experiments, and perhaps think about real world examples and events.

What you need to do is to ask yourselves questions like these:

What is money, really?
Why does money work?

I am not saying this to ridicule people (not this time, anyway!). It isn't knowledge that we are born with, and many do not think about this because they never really have to. However, to understand why these changes were made to the game, you need to have at least some understanding of how an economic system actually works.

You do not need to have a formal education in the subject either. That might have been the case if you were to analyze real world economics, because the economies of the real world are extremely much more complex than the pretty small and simplistic economies within FF11. Because of this, with a bit of effort, I am sure that most, if not everyone in this thread would be able to understand it, if they just stopped spending their mental resources on negative thoughts about how they can't make money as easily anymore.

If I come off as condescending, I am sorry. That is not my intention. I just really hope that if people spent some time trying to understand what has happened and why it has happened, it would make them feel better about the change. I am completely serious right now.

[Ryanx]

I hope they change things back but chances are they won't I wounder how things are on the jp side

[Mirage]

If they do change it back, I'm going to invest all my gil into something that isn't gil.

[Camiie]

If they do change it back, I'm going to invest all my gil into something that isn't gil.

You're going to invest in gold?

[Mirage]

It's a secret.