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  1. #41
    Player Sarick's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by StingRay104 View Post
    In the past Final Fantasy games, a player would get decent amount of gil based on the level of the monster or monsters they defeated. When is the last time anyone got gil from a monster? All the new stuff gives cruor. All the old stuff gives at most 30 gil a kill except nms. Where is the balance of actually getting decent rewards from difficult monsters. 1/500 chance to get the item you desire? This is wrong.
    Those games don't involve social aspects. You either farmed crafted or made everything on those games yourself. There was no player vs player trade. In those games the money you made was the economy. In an MMO the money each player makes becomes the economy.

    If transactions are mostly between other players that means money lingers in the system. If things where different and more money sinks existed then that wouldn't be a concern. Unfortunately, every thing that's good in this game is either farmed, or crafted by other players.

    AS of now players buy mules to hold gear. What if players could buy as much space as they wanted if they rented it each upgrade costing more every time more items where added? What if mog mail cost money for deliveries. What if some HIGH end armors constantly needed recharged.

    This isn't a rocket science. Yes the system is broken but money growing on tress is only a good idea if there are equivalent money pits that are CONSUMING it in equal amounts. I'm sorry but trading with outer players isn't consuming money it's just moving it around.
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    Last edited by Sarick; 10-23-2012 at 08:01 AM.
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  2. #42
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    Hey SE, make some new awesome food.
    Make it so that we have to buy expensive ingredients to make this food.
    Make the foods require 110 Cooking, and have an HQ version that we can't Tier 1.

    If we got some new DD food, mage food, etc and it was costly to make, it would be an easy gilsink.
    FOR EXAMPLE, if it was the best DD food, cost 100k to make, it would be 100k taken from the players, towards an item that will be consumed. At the same time, giving Cooking a bit more usefulness as a craft. [There's not a WHOLE LOT of profit when you compare to other crafts.]
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  3. #43
    Player DrForester's Avatar
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    Well you can't expect the guys at SE to do anything useful like ban the RMT people. then they would not get subscription fees. Instead SE was kind enough to screw over the entire playerbase so they could keep their precious subscription fees from the people that do RMT.

    Not like this will get rid of gilsellers SE, they'll just find something new.
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  4. #44
    Player DrForester's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrantsyn View Post
    I did this once or twice, found it super annoying and went back to farming the regular stuff. From what it sounds like to me some of you became way too reliant on it. And the fact that some of you guys seem outrage about the nerf is just bewildering to me.

    Cruor has become a staple in the game at this point. I'm sure their be using it again for something else before you know it.
    Outside letting people buy Voidwatch stones with it, they aren't going to do anything will the millions of curor out there. This is just a screw you to the player base, and a slight inconvenience for the RMT. It's a stupid measure because it won't in any way stop RMT sellers.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrantsyn View Post
    I did this once or twice, found it super annoying and went back to farming the regular stuff. From what it sounds like to me some of you became way too reliant on it. And the fact that some of you guys seem outrage about the nerf is just bewildering to me.

    Cruor has become a staple in the game at this point. I'm sure their be using it again for something else before you know it.
    Pretty much this in a nutshell. I have many other legitimate ways of making cash so this was sort of a lol for me when I'd heard about it.
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  6. #46
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    Let's just all rage quit for stuff getting nerfed. I remember way back in the day when they nerfed ranger and made alot of people mad. This also nerfed holy waters, think there was something with a smithing cap that rmt use to fish up and make a ton of gill on. There is so much stuff they have nerfed in this game and people complain. Stop being lazy and find other ways to make gill not that hard. It doesn't matter if player base or rmt are doing it, either way prices are gonna be high cause some dumbass is willing to pay for a over priced piece of gear. There are so many new players in this game with gear they don't even know how to use. They don't even know how to play the job correctly, it's just sad that you can burn any job and just plain suck at it. If you know you got new people in your shell teach the correct way to playing the game teach them the basics.
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    It's called the 2% rule for a reason, if you need to ask your part of the 2%.

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosneffect View Post
    Let's just all rage quit for stuff getting nerfed. I remember way back in the day when they nerfed ranger and made alot of people mad. This also nerfed holy waters, think there was something with a smithing cap that rmt use to fish up and make a ton of gill on. There is so much stuff they have nerfed in this game and people complain. Stop being lazy and find other ways to make gill not that hard. It doesn't matter if player base or rmt are doing it, either way prices are gonna be high cause some dumbass is willing to pay for a over priced piece of gear. There are so many new players in this game with gear they don't even know how to use. They don't even know how to play the job correctly, it's just sad that you can burn any job and just plain suck at it. If you know you got new people in your shell teach the correct way to playing the game teach them the basics.
    Granted there are tons of ways to make money but the sole fact remains that repeatedly SE punishes the non tos breakers at the same time as the tos breakers, thats becoming bullshit.
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  8. #48
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    Brians
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    Leviathan
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    RDM Lv 12
    The gil fountain was retarded. This should have been nerfed a long time ago as it's led to inflation. The amount of gil being created was not even close to proportionate to the gil outgoing.
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  9. #49
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    Grievor
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    Every time someone in game purchases an item from a npc (Corsair Die, Select puppet attachments, scholar storm/helix spells come to mind...) money is removed from the game environment. If npc selling is entirely removed from the game, gil will continue to cycle around between players, slowly being removed from the system. Additionally the auction house charges list fees for items. Statistically if such an event were to occur where money couldnt be earned from missions/quests, npcing, or monster kills, the gil pool would dry to such a point where even using the Mhaura/Valkurm ships for 100G each would be considered a massive luxury and waste of money. In short, the gil in game has to come from somewhere, and as most sources via quest/mission are not repeatable, this would cause a market collapse in due tome, killing jobs whom depend on npc only offered items to function propperly. While i cant be sure removing blinker npcing from the game is good or bad, i can say that people are less likely to lower their prices initally, and sales will grind to a hault before a mass economic price crash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winrie View Post
    Granted there are tons of ways to make money but the sole fact remains that repeatedly SE punishes the non tos breakers at the same time as the tos breakers, thats becoming bullshit.
    Couldn't agree more.
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