Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Komori]

/sea or /search?

How about you shout and create parties in old areas instead of forcing people to only go that route?

[Valaris]

nah its not civil. people normally are not civil when it comes to them having to eather do more work or take the "easy button" away. and keep in mind the only reason i think this idea has merit is because a huge ammount of the game isnt being used anymore. abyssea was ment to be end game content. how can this be so if a lvl 30 can pop in and leech his way to 90. and they might not raise the lvl cap to 70 but eventually they will probly make it so you cant gain xp at all till you hit 70. kinda like it was in the past with the whole lvl gap thing. if memory serves they created that so a lvl 1 couldnt pt with a lvl 75 and leech his way to max lvl. so its not an impossibility to see that happen.

[svengalis]

Please let this thread DIE! We don't need dumb ideas like this floating around. Don't wanna give SE any ideas. The way Abyssea was setup was done for a reason: the game is dying plain and simple. It needs to be like. No more post in this thread PLEASE!

[Flunklesnarkin]

nah its not civil. people normally are not civil when it comes to them having to eather do more work or take the "easy button" away. and keep in mind the only reason i think this idea has merit is because a huge ammount of the game isnt being used anymore. abyssea was ment to be end game content. how can this be so if a lvl 30 can pop in and leech his way to 90. and they might not raise the lvl cap to 70 but eventually they will probly make it so you cant gain xp at all till you hit 70. kinda like it was in the past with the whole lvl gap thing. if memory serves they created that so a lvl 1 couldnt pt with a lvl 75 and leech his way to max lvl. so its not an impossibility to see that happen.

Even if they did a exp limit tho.. people would still leech dominion ops pages.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

Please let this thread DIE! We don't need dumb ideas like this floating around. Don't wanna give SE any ideas. The way Abyssea was setup was done for a reason: the game is dying plain and simple. It needs to be like. No more post in this thread PLEASE!

incorrect, and yes many reasons have been given, go read them

[Valaris]

Even if they did a exp limit tho.. people would still leech dominion ops pages.

i ment dominion to be included in the whole no xp at all post XD. and yes the game is kinda slowing down. and one of the reasons and ive seen this alot of times is new players at lvl 1 cant get parties and lvl cause theres no one seeking so they just quit. so theres a constant flow of new players quiting and old players leaving the game. i know everyone that already has an established character likes the easy lvling and would hate for it to go away but somethings gonna have to be done about that.

[Mrbeansman]

There's a reason that nobody has been able to come up with one good argument for this: there isn't one. You people are either A: Jealous that your imaginary hard work is gone or B: Completely ignorant of why people in this game are complete idiots.

[Flunklesnarkin]

Valaris.. i don't know anybody who partied at lvl 1 lol

always soloed to 10+

and i've seen more people who have been in the game under 6 months at max level than I ever seen before abyssea.

It would be interesting if they posted statistics on new accounts pre/post abyssea and give us a better insight into what abyssea has done to veteran / new player populations.

All the speculation of abyssea is killing newbies or abyssea is flooding the game with noobs is all anecdotal.

I wouldn't put much weight into any of it without some form of numerical proof

[Valaris]

There's a reason that nobody has been able to come up with one good argument for this: there isn't one. You people are either A: Jealous that your imaginary hard work is gone or B: Completely ignorant of why people in this game are complete idiots.

typically in an argument the one without the good argument is the one that resorts to insults to back their agenda.

[Greatguardian]

Valaris.. i don't know anybody who partied at lvl 1 lol

always soloed to 10+

and i've seen more people who have been in the game under 6 months at max level than I ever seen before abyssea.

It would be interesting if they posted statistics on new accounts pre/post abyssea and give us a better insight into what abyssea has done to veteran / new player populations.

All the speculation of abyssea is killing newbies or abyssea is flooding the game with noobs is all anecdotal.

I wouldn't put much weight into any of it without some form of numerical proof

I think one of the biggest reasons for this anecdotal humduggery being so different from both sides of the issue is that both sides have vastly different definitions of "Noob" and "Bad players".

The "Make Abyssea 75+ ONLY" camp seems to define a noob as a Blm with level 10 elemental magic skill and no spells.

The "Just go away" camp seems to define a noob as the above, plus anyone who doesn't gear swap, use haste gear, have HQ staves (these are dirt cheap), complains about any gil value less than 1M, doesn't understand basic game mechanics, and/or hasn't participated in anything more "Extreme" than Dynamis.

In that regard, many of the players in the former camp are what players in the latter camp would consider noobs; creating this perceptional dichotomy. The former camp claims to see more noobs now that Abyssea is out because they aren't counting themselves. The latter camp claims that the number of noobs is the same, because they've counted the former camp the entire time.