To Dev's, are there any plans to fix Neo Nyzul Isle?

[Eldelphia]

NNI excludes a greater range of players than most other events. To be effective is to have 4 x high powered DD and 2 SCH. I've done some and had a mixed set of runs which weren't bad for a pickup. It's designed for statics with PUGs having random luck. This excludes a considerable portion of the population who don't have a) SCH and decent Enhancing skill or b) a certain melee DD with a 90+ empy/mythic/relic weapon.

[Sp1cyryan]

This. I'm finding it pretty amazing that this thread keeps going page after page with the same guy telling all opposition to this event that they're terrible at the game and dictating what's fun at everyone around him. Reminds me of a former patient that was obsessed with Baseball to the point where he'd argue with himself about batting averages.

I am now a mental patient.

Love your analogies Caketime.

Stay thirsty my friend.

[Caketime]

I am now a mental patient.

Love your analogies Caketime.

Stay thirsty my friend.

You said it, not me. I pretty much gave up on having an intelligent conversation with you when you posted against the idea of having a built in voice chat option for the game simply to oppose everything I said. I mean, who would want that sort of functionality when we can just use third party apps?

[Sp1cyryan]

You said it, not me. I pretty much gave up on having an intelligent conversation with you when you posted against the idea of having a built in voice chat option for the game simply to oppose everything I said. I mean, who would want that sort of functionality when we can just use third party apps?

Well doesn't that just speak volumes?

Why should SE put in development time for a voice chat system across multiple platforms when 9 times out of 10 people who have internet and this game have a computer to use that internet on? The idea is just silly and a huge waste of time since it is not just for a single platform.

I am not out to oppose everything you said and you know that. You were the one who first started saying it did not matter what I said as you did not really care one way or the other, not I. so please do not try to put spin on it.

You seem to say third party apps like it is a bad thing. Yes Skype is a third party application, but so is an internet browser for that matter.

I wish SE develop their own internet browser so I did not have to use third party applications for posting on the FFXI official forums!

[MarkovChain]

The simple fact that voice chat is essential to win (with your piercing eyes seeing faraway through walls and still useful dat numbers) should say enough to SE :

First what do I do as french if I team up with non french speakers ; I mean I can understand and type engish relatively correctly but as for oral english nope.

What about me playing with japanese or ukrainians ?

So basically as french I'm forced to play with french, and the game supports french I hear. I mean the french forums are empty.

But I think we should be waiting first for the new 2Hours nerf before pseculating about the changes?

[FrankReynolds]

Well doesn't that just speak volumes?

Why should SE put in development time for a voice chat system across multiple platforms when 9 times out of 10 people who have internet and this game have a computer to use that internet on? The idea is just silly and a huge waste of time since it is not just for a single platform.

I am not out to oppose everything you said and you know that. You were the one who first started saying it did not matter what I said as you did not really care one way or the other, not I. so please do not try to put spin on it.

You seem to say third party apps like it is a bad thing. Yes Skype is a third party application, but so is an internet browser for that matter.

I wish SE develop their own internet browser so I did not have to use third party applications for posting on the FFXI official forums!

I agree wholeheartedly with you. Why should SE develop something that already exists? I mean they should just stop developing games entirely. Most people who have a computer / console gaming system already have games installed, so no need for SE to run out and develop more. Why would people want to pay them to develop something that already exists right?

[Caketime]

Why should SE put in development time for a voice chat system across multiple platforms when 9 times out of 10 people who have internet and this game have a computer to use that internet on? The idea is just silly and a huge waste of time since it is not just for a single platform.

Because built in voice chatting would eliminate the requirement for using things like Skype to talk to someone for a one time event or a pick-up party, and voice chatting makes communication easier. I'm sure you think it's completely stupid since you've managed to write another post that is completely against the idea simply because I'm the one talking about it. You would rather give out your contact information to people, and that's fine, but I'm not one of those and I feel that being able to voice chat without having to screw around with a contact list or worrying if the person I'm giving my information to is going to be a shitlord and order me a bunch of pizzas or something would be immensely convenient. Awesome, even.

I am not out to oppose everything you said and you know that. You were the one who first started saying it did not matter what I said as you did not really care one way or the other, not I. so please do not try to put spin on it.

Clearly you are, as your entire post is about how stupid the idea is and is based only on your contempt for me rather than anything tangible.

You seem to say third party apps like it is a bad thing. Yes Skype is a third party application, but so is an internet browser for that matter.

I wish SE develop their own internet browser so I did not have to use third party applications for posting on the FFXI official forums!

This is where you're confusing yourself with things I posted and shit you've made up. Third party apps aren't bad, but people are, and I expect the worst from each and every one of them. I'm sure you'll find a reason to justify your stance while attempting to discredit and/or misquote me, looking forward to that. Could you also add some assumptions in as well? That'd be great.

[Demon6324236]

I agree wholeheartedly with you. Why should SE develop something that already exists? I mean they should just stop developing games entirely. Most people who have a computer / console gaming system already have games installed, so no need for SE to run out and develop more. Why would people want to pay them to develop something that already exists right?

Thats getting a bit stupid with it imo. It would be nice for SE to add a voice system to FFXI seeing as communication is a massive part needed in some events such as NNI. At the same time making one may ultimately be undo-able for cross platform. If you cant talk via cross platform it seems kinda pointless seeing as the only players who would be able to use it would likely be PC players, which already have access to other forms like Skype. Also players who only play FFXI on Xbox and not on PC, could use Skype on a nearby computer rather than being unable to because their friend/party are using "game-chat".

As for it being because of third-party programs, if that is the reason why that is being talked about even, its stupid. I am 99% sure when third-party programs come up they are referring to any program made by someone other than SE which directly interacts with the game in some way. Internet Explorer does not, Skype does not, Windower does, Parsers do. Easy way to tell the difference in my opinion.

If SE is counting things like Skype & Internet Explorer against players, then they need to ban every PC player on the game for the internet, most players on Xbox for Xbox Live voice-chat/skype & the internet, and some PS2 players for the internet & chat programs.

[detlef]

One thing we know about SE's voice chat system: it will suck and people will hate it.

What a silly thing to request.

[Demon6324236]

Because built in voice chatting would eliminate the requirement for using things like Skype to talk to someone for a one time event or a pick-up party, and voice chatting makes communication easier. I'm sure you think it's completely stupid since you've managed to write another post that is completely against the idea simply because I'm the one talking about it. You would rather give out your contact information to people, and that's fine, but I'm not one of those and I feel that being able to voice chat without having to screw around with a contact list or worrying if the person I'm giving my information to is going to be a shitlord and order me a bunch of pizzas or something would be immensely convenient. Awesome, even.

If this is your concern, then you simply make a 2nd account with completely false information. For instance I have a Skype account I use with people I do not know or do not trust, I live in 666, Asshole Dr. in the city of Hell, Ohio. Obviously such a place does not exist, my info is not given out, and I can talk with whomever I wish. Best thing about this is since nothing on the account even matters anyways you can name it something pointlessly retarded you remember easily with the password of 123456 and it doesn't matter because the only use for it is to talk to people you will probably never really talk to again anyways.