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  1. #91
    Player Plasticleg's Avatar
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    This event is/has always been highly skewed with luck, even if you are using 3rd party tools.
    People who use them know the risk and don't go crying bloody murder if they get b&.
    With that said, you don't "need" an optimal set up for the event, the mobs aren't hard and it's just nyzul.
    However, if you want to up your chances of winning, you better have a way you can communicate fast and embrava up for efficiency.
    The only reason I would use for SE nerfing Embrava, is so that the win rate (hitting floor 100) will be dramatically reduced, making more attempts required to max out at 15/15. The longer they can keep you running on the hamster wheel, the more months you will dump into their billing cycle to keep your characters active while we mentally wait for SoA. Oh, and if you think they're going to nerf anything about NNI's funtastic win-rate with Embrava's nerf, take off the rose colored glasses and smell the Folger's in your cup. It's a crappy use of artificial difficulty.

    Be half of an adult and hit "ignore" on me/pchan instead of turning the thread into another rendition of "the troll that cried troll".
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticleg View Post
    The longer they can keep you running on the hamster wheel, the more months you will dump into their billing cycle to keep your characters active while we mentally wait for SoA.
    The only problem with this is people like me who look at stupid shit and then walk away from the game for that reason, rather than staying & running on my wheel.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasticleg View Post
    Be half of an adult and hit "ignore" on me/pchan instead of turning the thread into another rendition of "the troll that cried troll".
    I think the entire world hit the "ignore" button on Pchan.
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  4. #94
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    My favorite thing about Pchan is that he uses parsers, windower, and other 3rd party tools, then tries to give other people grief about using them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    My favorite thing about Pchan is that he uses parsers, windower, and other 3rd party tools, then tries to give other people grief about using them.
    Hey, everyone knows parsers are game breaking. Anyone who ever won Nyzul used a parser!
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  6. #96
    Player Razielrinz's Avatar
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    I retract my previous statement about everyone being a cheat. I have talked extensively with some people who run this on my server and these people win without cheating so it is possible. I guess my complaint comes down to its not fun for me. Ok this is my opinion, its not fun to have to spend all the time I have in game trying to get the right people together to run this event to get a couple pieces of gear that I want. All the good people I know either have 15/15 and are done with it cause its not a fun event to run or are in statics trying to get their 15/15. I have spent 2 weeks in game trying to put together the right group to no avail. So I guess my true gripe is it is not fun to have to spend time trying to put this together with my limited time. People I trust to not cheat say its possible (just really hard) to win reliably without cheating then I withdraw my argument that everyone is cheating. I do think that if this was like old Nyzul (even with different drop rates) it would be better for people like me who have limited time and limited resources.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razielrinz View Post
    I retract my previous statement about everyone being a cheat. I have talked extensively with some people who run this on my server and these people win without cheating so it is possible.
    You don't say?

    Quote Originally Posted by Razielrinz View Post
    I guess my complaint comes down to its not fun for me.
    Perhaps you are just not ready for Nyzul? Perhaps you just need more practice? It is only not fun for you because you are not winning and do nothing but struggle. It honestly should not be that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Razielrinz View Post
    Ok this is my opinion, its not fun to have to spend all the time I have in game trying to get the right people together to run this event to get a couple pieces of gear that I want. All the good people I know either have 15/15 and are done with it cause its not a fun event to run or are in statics trying to get their 15/15. I have spent 2 weeks in game trying to put together the right group to no avail. So I guess my true gripe is it is not fun to have to spend time trying to put this together with my limited time.
    What..? I can go to PJ right now and in one shout I will have a handful of people who want to go. Generally they are all well prepared believe it or not. Almost every single person out of maybe 15 people I have seen interested in coming with me has some form of emperian/relic/mythic. If they do not then at least everyone else has the next best thing.

    Make a post on AH.com or even anywhere for that matter? Evaluate the days and times you are going? Talk to people you know? I assure you that (assuming you are not geared casually) this event can be done very causally. In fact some people that I have had in the static (after 30 pieces of gear people come in and out here and there) outside of school, work, life, etc do not have much time for the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Razielrinz View Post
    People I trust to not cheat say its possible (just really hard) to win reliably without cheating then I withdraw my argument that everyone is cheating.
    It still is not "hard" it just has chance play a factor.

    It is not hard to draw the shortest or longest straws when drawing straws. Chance just plays a roll and you get what you get.

    Quote Originally Posted by Razielrinz View Post
    I do think that if this was like old Nyzul (even with different drop rates) it would be better for people like me who have limited time and limited resources.
    Introducing Meeble Burrows! What, do you want a Mythic for each job too?

    I do think that perhaps an event that drops some of the best gear in the game in a single 30M run perhaps might just not be the event you are looking for. Perhaps from everything I have heard you are not cut out for Nyzul because from everything I have gathered you just are not that good.

    Don't take it personally as it speaks to nothing of you as a person. Most of the game is accessible to you easily. Just not everything is your cup of tea at this point.
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    Just to say, because someone does not enjoy an event does not mean "is only not fun for you because you are not winning" some things are just generally boring, I mean honestly, alot of this game is boring for me winning or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Just to say, because someone does not enjoy an event does not mean "is only not fun for you because you are not winning" some things are just generally boring, I mean honestly, alot of this game is boring for me winning or not.
    After them going on about only the cheaters win. Which do you think is more likely?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Just to say, because someone does not enjoy an event does not mean "is only not fun for you because you are not winning" some things are just generally boring, I mean honestly, alot of this game is boring for me winning or not.
    This. I'm finding it pretty amazing that this thread keeps going page after page with the same guy telling all opposition to this event that they're terrible at the game and dictating what's fun at everyone around him. Reminds me of a former patient that was obsessed with Baseball to the point where he'd argue with himself about batting averages.
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