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  1. #121
    Player Camiie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malthar View Post
    That was before /fume was discovered.
    Exactly. No one is bothering with "odd" jobs in VW anymore. BST needs to be needed in groups before they start taking away any of our soloing advantages.
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  2. #122
    Player Lyberty's Avatar
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    I as a THF myself wouldnt mind that BSTs could have their TH3 back, but infortunatelly most (not all) BSTs have very bad attitude when farming dyna, claiming 3 mobs at once which I personally dont think fair to other people farming there as well and because of that bad attitude people hate BSTs so much... Maybe If it wasnt for the bad attitude you guys would still have your TH3.
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  3. #123
    Player Malthar's Avatar
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    What do you mean by "you guys"?!?!?!
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  4. #124
    Player Lyberty's Avatar
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    By "you guys" I meant BSTs in general.
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  5. #125
    Player Malthar's Avatar
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    First of all, don't consider abyssea, fell cleaved, pearl bst's true beastmasters. They didn't level bst in the old days where you'd take two steps forward some days then three steps back another. True beasts are very emphatic of others and we are very polite. It's the bandwaggon bsts to whom you should be aiming your comments.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyberty View Post
    By "you guys" I meant BSTs in general.
    I like this blanket, it looks warm and snuggly.

    Would also like to point out that everyone would hold 3 mobs at a time if they could, and while I feel that is a bit rude to other people personally, who are any of us to dictate how others play the job or interact with the game world? Also, why are career BST players getting all of the flak for the stupidity of some punk kids who only use it for Dyna farming?
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    Last edited by Caketime; 09-16-2012 at 08:21 PM.

  7. #127
    Player Komori's Avatar
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    If anyone has personally seen me on BST with more than one mob it's probably because Falcorr's poor pathing caused him to link them all also. No one seems to remember that pets talk really weird routes just like monsters do! And it's not as easily to pull only one of them with Falcorr running all the way to the left before coming back to me. If you see more than one on me, take it. As long as you kill quickly, it'll respawn soon enough. But I don't go in Dynamis on BST anymore, I duo it with my friend while I'm on BLU since I got my Almace.

    I know what greedy BSTs are like, and all you do is TAKE what is yellow, ignore what they say. They don't dictate the game. They didn't create it and they pay just as much as I do. People need to stop being so afraid of what people will say to them or what "moral law" your breaking when you tell someone in a overcamped spot to stop taking six mobs.
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  8. #128
    Player scaevola's Avatar
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    It's not like pet special attacks are the only thing BST gets. You get axe and most of scythe as well.

    Proc-wise, BST isn't meaningfully worse off than DRK or SAM.

    The real reason nobody bothers bringing a BST to Voidwatch is because everybody knows a BST with absolute best-in-slot gear is still going to be behind a fair-to-decent WAR, SAM, or DRK because BST's gear scaling is horrible, so the BSTs don't suggest their BSTs over other jobs they have and the group-makers don't ask.

    This gear-scaling problem facing BSTs was mentioned by exactly two posters in this thread: Arcon and myself.

    Would also like to point out that everyone would hold 3 mobs at a time if they could, and while I feel that is a bit rude to other people personally, who are any of us to dictate how others play the job or interact with the game world? Also, why are career BST players getting all of the flak for the stupidity of some punk kids who only use it for Dyna farming?
    Because, once again, this is absolutely 100% about Dynamis; any other context and BST can sub THF like any other job.

    EDIT: BST would also be a good candidate to sub DNC in voidwatch and get most of the potential step procs, as well.
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    Last edited by scaevola; 09-17-2012 at 01:02 AM.
    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    Because, once again, this is absolutely 100% about Dynamis; any other context and BST can sub THF like any other job.
    So in a nut shell: BST can't haz nice things because then it would be good at one thing.
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    Player scaevola's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    So in a nut shell: BST can't haz nice things because then it would be good at one thing.
    No, I say that because the insistence that this totally isn't about Dynamis is disingenuous; this technically doesn't have anything to do with why pet TH is a bad idea. BST is ALREADY the best available for that one particular thing (all farming, not just Dynamis).

    I have said several times in this thread that I think BST has problems that can and really, really should be fixed (gil-for-gear playstyle, horrible gear scaling*, current buff-based metagame), but farming ability simply isn't one of them.

    In other news, my realtor just called me to tell me somebody accepted my offer on their house. F yeah, homeowning.




    *this is the real reason you see so many perle BSTs in Dynamis; it's not that they aren't "real BSTs", it's that they understand that upgrading their gear wouldn't really make much of a difference.
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    Last edited by scaevola; 09-17-2012 at 01:13 AM.
    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

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