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    Player Sargent's Avatar
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    Regarding O and X, maybe just include those two without the "button" part, but scrap the rest of the controller/keyboard category.

    Remove:
    {In what order shall we use our weapon skills?} - Most people don't even know what a skillchain is anymore
    {Heal!} or {Healing!}
    {Reward} or {Reward:}
    {Setting Home Point}
    {Mercenary Assessment}/{Mercenary Rank} - Maybe even both
    Ballista related stuff in Game Terms, except {Ballista}
    Maybe the whole Race catagory, people can abbreviate these like TT, HM, GK etc
    Settings & Setup... - {Filter}, {Patch}, {TV} (esp TV, it's the same in every language)

    Add:
    Was said, {Abyssea} and {Dynamis} would save on spaces for auto translate stuff. Add {Walk of Echoes} and {Provenance}. Keep spaces reserved for Adoulin.
    Spells/JAs/Avatars are a given.
    Was never actually included: Relic Weapon Skills and Empyrean Weapon Skills.
    Game Terms: {Atma}, {Voidwatch}, {Curor}, {Dominion}, {Fields of Valor}, {Grounds of Valor} at the least. Don't really need {Bastion} if your trying to conserve space, depends on what the devs plan to add with Adoulin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sargent View Post
    Regarding O and X, maybe just include those two without the "button" part, but scrap the rest of the controller/keyboard category.
    Or just add a simple yes and no, I don't understand how that was not put in in the first place!
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    The O and X are actually used to indicate yes (O) and no (X) to JP
    Last I checked, there are actually O and X keys on our keyboards

    <Log><Please check it> (Log means chat log not log of wood afaik)
    Then it should be clarified as such. I've personally never seen {Log} used to refer to anything other than Voidwatch.

    <Enemy><Physical><Attack><Take care> (take care actually translates into "be careful" in JP.. not "see you later")
    Most people just say {Incredibly tough} or {Impossible to gauge} when referring to a particularly difficult enemy.

    Also, the {Physical} probably refers to the category of chocobo attributes and not to physical attacks, since there is also a {Mental}. But I still think that neither of those need to be there. Terms for the actual attributes, like {Endurance}, is ok; these two aren't needed.


    <Sword><Skill><Level><What?>
    Eh, fair enough.

    Fishing routes
    Again, not all the possible routes are even listed there. Nor do I think there is enough of a reason to have them all listed there.


    A few that should stay: Artifact, armor, earring, racial gear (RSE), Ring
    Yeah, that kind of stuff is fine. Things like {Bastard Sword} or {Baselard} or {Tunic} though, way too specific to be worth keeping around (and we all know what {Bastard Sword} ever gets used for anyway, and it's not to refer to the actual weapon)

    I use these.
    The point isn't whether one person uses these, the point is what isn't relevant enough to the game to be worth keeping in, because at this point we've been going for literally years without having actual game-relevant terms (such as the post-75 blue magic spells, for one thing) added to the translate. From a gameplay standpoint, this is far more important than you being able to translate the RL months or being able to quote Cartoon Link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    Or just add a simple yes and no, I don't understand how that was not put in in the first place!
    Yes and no do exsist in translate table.

    /yes

    /no

    These are emotes commands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sargent View Post
    {Reward} or {Reward:}
    These are actually pretty relevant, since "Reward" is a Beastmaster ability, and "Reward:" signifies an actual compensation for a service in-game. It makes a difference to JP players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sargent View Post
    {In what order shall we use our weapon skills?} - Most people don't even know what a skillchain is anymore
    And in the few cases we actually want to do a skillchain, we can use {Weaponskillone} -> {Weaponskilltwo} -> {Skillchainname} {Yes, please} to communicate this with foreign players.

    To list a few things myself (even if many of them have been mentioned already):

    A lot (most) of the controller/keyboard terms. Instead of O-button and X-button to communicate yes/no, we can use {Yes, please} or {No, thanks}. I think {Trigger} can stay, because it is used for pop items/weakness targeting (i think), but you could remove that if you added real terms for pop items and weakness targeting.

    Here is an idea, though. Would it be possible for SE to take perhaps a month's worth of chat logs and run them through a sort of log parser and have that program automatically generate a list over the most/least used auto-translate words? I realize this is a *lot* of chat log to parse, but I guess this is what would give the most accurate picture of which terms are used or not.

    I think it's pretty safe to entirely remove terms that haven't been used even once in an entire month by the entire player base, for example. Maybe terms that are used less than 1% too.
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