Bastion - Epic Fail SE

[Mirage]

Yes, that's why we shouldn't be limited to once per game day. Perhaps we'd get a more significant increase if we could do it 10 times each every game day.

And/or perhaps the HP should increase more per quest, based on how many times the quest had been done the last 24 hours. If almost no one (once or less per hour) has done the quest int he past 24 real life hours, the martello HP could increase 10 times more per quest than it currently does. The specifics aren't important, as long as a small group can still manage to increase it significantly.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Do Misareaux Coast. PDT set, sub RDM. Spam diaga to grab target hate before they near the mantello, and then kill what weaker targets you can, since you only get credit on the kills.

It's been this way for a year.

Or SCH and 2-hour Embrava the martello and NPC's assuming that still works.

[Glamdring]

Maybe a ton of threads exist on this by now.. I just discovered it.

My rating.. worst thing ever.

Essentially if your not with an entire pack of others, or a high lvl powerful blm you can't hope to get any points from this.

What was the idea here SE? I don't like what I see..

Campaign battle works just fine, this crap comes out later an its like the pre-alpha failure idea that might've spawned campaign.

So far.. only blm & war can achieve anything here. Oh an pld.

I give this system 2 thumbs down, not user friendly at all, worst idea ever.

You're doing it wrong...

Seriously, almost any job can make out in Bastion quite easily. Sub any job with an AoE. Make sure you have RR up. Use the AoE, stonega/banisga 1 work especially well. Follow with an AoE sleep and stand back, leaving everything to the NPCs. Your low damage AoE should have the hate taken away very quickly, but you are on the books as "contributing to the death" of anythng you hit. You'll get good XP and points. Run through the NPCs, staying in their midst and trying to sleep, bind or whatever anything that resisted your AoE sleep so the NPCs are more likely to pull it off you. Hopefully your RR will never be used.

Now, where you are partially right, they released Dominion Ops shortly after Bastion, so Bastion was overshadowed by the faster/higher/more leech friendly system in terms of XP/LP. Bastion still works just fine, and you'll need some points to get one of your AF3 pieces if you want it.

[kewitt]

My hubby and I can get a few 1000 per round. Any 2 level 99 jobs. RR is a must!

The shield really need to auto re-spawn higher, in the current world of FFXI.
That or the Quests should bring the shield up to 75+% for next 2 runs.

That you, would do the quest to bring up the shields then get 2 runs out of it.

[RAIST]

You're doing it wrong...

Seriously, almost any job can make out in Bastion quite easily. Sub any job with an AoE. Make sure you have RR up. Use the AoE, stonega/banisga 1 work especially well. Follow with an AoE sleep and stand back, leaving everything to the NPCs. Your low damage AoE should have the hate taken away very quickly, but you are on the books as "contributing to the death" of anythng you hit. You'll get good XP and points. Run through the NPCs, staying in their midst and trying to sleep, bind or whatever anything that resisted your AoE sleep so the NPCs are more likely to pull it off you. Hopefully your RR will never be used.

Now, where you are partially right, they released Dominion Ops shortly after Bastion, so Bastion was overshadowed by the faster/higher/more leech friendly system in terms of XP/LP. Bastion still works just fine, and you'll need some points to get one of your AF3 pieces if you want it.

QFT

More or less, I think it boils down to people just not understanding how it all works.

I've xp'ed jobs pre 75 in Vunkerl (first time I tried this, I took DRG/WHM from 65-66 one afternoon of farting around doing quests/ops) I've SOLOED Misereaux on NIN/DNC once on a whim just to prove a point (used ninjutsu and AOE from dagger to pull things to me early and keep them focused on me) and Vunkerl on SMN, BLM, DRK, MNK, WAR, SAM, DRG and even WHM FFS.

Get there early enough to pass some buffs out with something like /WHM, RDM, SCH, etc--even /SMN's Carby's Ruby can make a difference--and keep your defenses up (DRK/WHM or DRK/RDM is just fun as h3ll in there). When you can, run the ops to stuff a bag and buff up the defense/offense capabilities of the NPC's & structures. AOE the mobs close enough to the clone ward line, but far enough away from the martello to stop them from advancing on the martello and kite them out--it draws the NPC's out with you so they can't easily capture the martello.

Keep in mind it scales your points like with Campaign--every action you take adds to the points you get when something dies that you've tagged. If you are buffing NPC's and such before the fight starts, you get points even if you didn't tag the first mob that dies--this is how I exploited Bastion to level several jobs pre-75. Pass out the buffs beforehand, AOE pull and kite mobs away from the martello, fire off WS, JA's, and toss cures and such when you can, and if you die...get your butt back up ASAP so you don't miss the points when things die.

[Catmato]

Do Misareaux Coast. PDT set, sub RDM. Spam diaga to grab target hate before they near the martello, while they ignore you and go straight for the martello anyway, 1-shot it, and end the fight in 6 seconds.

It's been this way since release (on Leviathan anyway)

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[Waldrich]

You're doing it wrong...

Seriously, almost any job can make out in Bastion quite easily. Sub any job with an AoE. Make sure you have RR up. Use the AoE, stonega/banisga 1 work especially well. Follow with an AoE sleep and stand back, leaving everything to the NPCs. Your low damage AoE should have the hate taken away very quickly, but you are on the books as "contributing to the death" of anythng you hit. You'll get good XP and points. Run through the NPCs, staying in their midst and trying to sleep, bind or whatever anything that resisted your AoE sleep so the NPCs are more likely to pull it off you. Hopefully your RR will never be used.

Now, where you are partially right, they released Dominion Ops shortly after Bastion, so Bastion was overshadowed by the faster/higher/more leech friendly system in terms of XP/LP. Bastion still works just fine, and you'll need some points to get one of your AF3 pieces if you want it.

NVM, KEEP DOING THINGS LIKE THIS SQUARE ENIX THE PLAYER BASE DESERVE TO SEE ONLY A FEW JOBS BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING. GO FOR IT SQUARE ENIX LIKE YOU DID WITH NYZUL ISLE ONLY DD's+SCH GO FOR IT.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

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Personally do that myself, and they stay on me.

[Luvbunny]

NVM, KEEP DOING THINGS LIKE THIS SQUARE ENIX THE PLAYER BASE DESERVE TO SEE ONLY A FEW JOBS BEING ABLE TO DO SOMETHING. GO FOR IT SQUARE ENIX LIKE YOU DID WITH NYZUL ISLE ONLY DD's+SCH GO FOR IT.

That's pretty much their idea of "balanced" system lol. Too lazy to actually looking at things across the board, ignorant to player's pleas, and pretty much understaffed forever. That is the state of this game. Stale visions, mindless grind, luck based drops, anything to keep you hooked with very minimal effort.

[Plasticleg]

The point: SE figured players would actively work on the bastion status, you know cuz it's a community based effort.

The problem: SE keeps underestimating the fact most people who currently play XI doesn't give two shits about anyone but themselves.

Would this include you and everyone who liked the post?
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