Turialon's Complain about the unsocial EMPY upgrades

[Fupafighter]

He's saying to suck it up and spend the gil, which is all well and good but if everyone did that then no one would finish. I'd personally rather spend the gil on a relic than blow it all on false prestige. I'm not saying don't do the trial if you have nothing better to do, I'm saying I personally won't bother with it as it is. Also, I'm not saying VW will die anytime soon but it is in decline. And eventually this trial will not be completable unless something changes. So, if people want to do this trial ever, they should probably buy up all the plates they can now before it's too late.

As long as people are making relics and there are people doing VW, there will be metals. That will last ATLEAST until the next expansion.

[Sayomi]

I agree the Weapon trials are insane and need to be lowered, hell even 5 Umbral Marrows is impossible for me with my playtime, and its not like SE can't lower it or change it, they've done things like this in the past and "fixed" it, I spent a long time working on my relic back in the day and I never get bored with using it, its upsetting to me I can't at the very least get it to 99, you would think hard work and dedication would pay off in the end, nope, need to jump through more hoops.

[Demon6324236]

As long as people are making relics and there are people doing VW, there will be metals. That will last ATLEAST until the next expansion.

As it was said, VW is in decline, less plates are going into the market, prices are going higher, and time can only tell until fewer and fewer people are doing it and it becomes rare. Not that I think it will stop soon, but the potential is there for it to slow down more and more as time goes as people will get items they want and stop doing it, or will be doing alot of NMs that do not drop plates, which is already the case with most T4~6 Spams for Jeuno or Cities.

[Waldrich]

This game is made for the 5% hardcore and not to the 95% semi-hardcore, semi-casual and casual players.

and We'll never get more players due to this Square Enix's Mentality.

[Vivivivi]

What's the point of this thread? At level 80 you get a decent weapon, at level 85 you get a very good weapon, a new weapon skill with aftermath, at level 90 you get a nice stat boost.... what's the problem with that? Sure I agree 1500 plates is a little daunting but consider this-

a) you can buy the plates. They're not rare/ex
b) there is nothing at stake when you fight the monsters that drop them (the risk of loosing a pop that took a while to make)
c) It is possible to obtain 3-12(+?) plates from a single mob such as Qilin
d) People fight the mobs that drop these _all_ the time because they also drop things other people want.

Of course it is somewhat of a time sink, and a little frustrating, but isn't that kinda what the entire game is? Not to mention you can end up with around 100k cruor from a Qilin run........... which can be made into gil which can be used to buy the plates.

[Fupafighter]

As it was said, VW is in decline, less plates are going into the market, prices are going higher, and time can only tell until fewer and fewer people are doing it and it becomes rare. Not that I think it will stop soon, but the potential is there for it to slow down more and more as time goes as people will get items they want and stop doing it, or will be doing alot of NMs that do not drop plates, which is already the case with most T4~6 Spams for Jeuno or Cities.

Did you say prices are going higher? Ours are at 80k here man, and I see alot of people buying lower and lower. Metals are not in decline haha.

[Fupafighter]

This game is made for the 5% hardcore and not to the 95% semi-hardcore, semi-casual and casual players.

and We'll never get more players due to this Square Enix's Mentality.

Casual players are fine to make a 99 empy. 2 hours a day dynamis with 200 coin is roughly 1.4 mil a day. Could complete a 99 in 5-6 months.

[Demon6324236]

Did you say prices are going higher? Ours are at 80k here man, and I see alot of people buying lower and lower. Metals are not in decline haha.

Not on your server then. On Phoenix I have seen less VW shouts daily, plates going up to 110k rather than the old 100k, and because of that I see less. At any rate plates will fall out of the market if the Expansion is good enough, if its not then we will have a problem on our hands bigger than the plates.

[Kysaiana]

Prices have definitely been going down on Siren lately. 80k Each is still the price of a relic for one trial though. The price went down because Qilin was spammed for a few weeks and there's probably a handful of people buying them at all. If everyone on the server spammed Qilin and sold plates instead of keeping them this trial would be easy. So again, the only reason anyone can do this trial is because so few want to do this trial.

[Afania]

Not on your server then. On Phoenix I have seen less VW shouts daily, plates going up to 110k rather than the old 100k, and because of that I see less. At any rate plates will fall out of the market if the Expansion is good enough, if its not then we will have a problem on our hands bigger than the plates.

I'm not too worried about the market of the plate though, I see ppl do VW very often just for plates. Try to /shout Qilin in PJ and they filled up pretty fast. As long as there are profit, there will be ppl doing VW as an alternative method to farm gil.

That's why I also disagree with "farm gil for empy 99 has no variety" Cuz you can do all sorts of different stuff to farm gil and build empy 99....fishing/crafting/salvage/VW/legion all offers good gil, instead of just doing one event.