To: Mr Akihiko Matsui

[Arcon]

Uhm I was just commenting on Meiyi's post and how he was able to articulate his points on abyss and how great that is. Please go back spreading abyssea hate, I really need everyone to get out of abyssea zones. Thanks for your support

I'm not spreading Abyssea hate, I didn't do so for a long time. I've come to see how useless it is to argue with fanboys and I'm ashamed to admit how long it took me to realize that. But don't worry about me, like many players I've already moved on. The only times I ever set foot in it is to help others.

I'm just satisfied to know SE saw what their mistake was and hope they'll learn from it.

I'm sorry Frank, but just because you find it dandy to demean/insult others in real life doesn't mean you have the right to advocate it. It only makes you look like "King Internet Badass" because not only do you do it online, but you do it IRL too.

Only he didn't do it on here. And that was kinda his point.

[Luvbunny]

But don't worry about me, like many players I've already moved on. The only times I ever set foot in it is to help others. I'm just satisfied to know SE saw what their mistake was and hope they'll learn from it.

Awesome, I wish everyone else would move on as well and leave abyssea zones alone and empty, cannot wait for this to happen, SOON please. Meh, I think SE "realized their mistake" then realized that people want easy button, hence displacer is introduced to Voidwatch to make it easier to just brew everything. Abyssea reared its ugly pretty head again and influencing things in the game. Let's see how they plan to revamp with SoA. Turn it back to old school and watch everyone leaves in droves, make it Abyssea version 2.0, and a lot will rejoice

[Arcon]

Awesome, I wish everyone else would move on as well and leave abyssea zones alone and empty, cannot wait for this to happen, SOON please.

What are you talking about, it's already empty. On Leviathan there's 126 people across all Abyssea zones right now. There used to be that much in a single zone about a year and a half ago and sometimes even more. And I'd bet a majority of them are afk leeching EXP, so they shouldn't bother you either. The zones are yours for the taking. Congratulations.

Turn it back to old school and watch everyone leaves in droves, make it Abyssea version 2.0, and a lot will rejoice

Groundless assumption, as that was never the case with Abyssea either. Wishful thinking on your part, because you're biased towards it.

[Demon6324236]

Ok say it more simply. They make everything a grinding annoyance with luck based systems determining everything you get, which will make people mad. They make everything balanced in a reward to effort ratio, which will make most happy. Or they will make things take absurdly high amounts of time, which will again make alot of people mad.

[Falseliberty]

.... this thread is still going lolol
I like how 4-5 people making alot of noise are acting as "the voice of the playerbase"
just make your point and move on.. oh wait whats the fun in that.

[Mirage]

But why not? Haven't you and the rest of Vanadiel finished them?

I did about half of it with level caps, and half of it without level caps, so yes, I have finished them. I was perhaps at promy vahzl when the caps were lifted.

The reason I don't want them back is that new players would have a really hard time completing them with the current top-heavy game. It would be better if they could do them on their own with perhaps one or two people with them, whenever they were strong enough to do so. Putting only CoP back at level cap will not shift the game significantly towards midgame being relevant again, and would just create frustration.

If you wanted to do that, you would have to turn back time for a lot of the parts of FF11, including the parts that most players think are way better now. It would simply cost SE a lot of subscribers, way more than they would get back from having a "harder" game. Although, nothing is really hard about grinding for hours.

[FrankReynolds]

I don't understand the desire to do things on a half leveled job. As a matter of fact, I don't even see that as the middle of the game any more. I see abyssea gear / NMs / dynamis / merit / skillup parties as the middle. The higher end being neonyzul legion etc.

getting your character to 99 doesn't mean it's done and you have nothing left to do on that job. You still need like 1,000,000 merit points, a bunch of gear and a bunch of weapon skills quests.

[Luvbunny]

What are you talking about, it's already empty. On Leviathan there's 126 people across all Abyssea zones right now. There used to be that much in a single zone about a year and a half ago and sometimes even more. And I'd bet a majority of them are afk leeching EXP, so they shouldn't bother you either. The zones are yours for the taking. Congratulations.

I wish that was the case in Bahamut, seems like everyone cannot leave the crack that is abyssea. Competition everywhere on every single things, VNMs, camped NMs, even black mandy camp in Altepa. I need a server with dead abyssea zones lol.

[Eyeballed]

The reason it has widespread appeal is it is accessible, so anyone can do it. The problem is with the best gear which is only a sidegrade in many cases, so for those who want the better gear they must do it much more often and it becomes a very big pain.

Right, so the system we're moving toward is content that is much more accessible by all players doing the RNG horizontal mambo. Easy to access, low/moderate difficulty and in trade a mind-numbing spamfest.

[Demon6324236]

Right, so the system we're moving toward is content that is much more accessible by all players doing the RNG horizontal mambo. Easy to access, low/moderate difficulty and in trade a mind-numbing spamfest.

Exactly, when in truth I think it should be accessible by all, somewhat difficult, and always rewarding. I have a point system that people seem to somewhat ignore or at least never respond to all to much, that I think would be great for VW type content. If RNG is screwing you long enough it eventually adds up to giving you the item anyways. Making people go 1/1 while others go 1/300 is stupid in game design, but so is closing off content to half of the players due to their personal time constraints or inability to play a game at certain times. Neither should be acceptable in game design, all content should be available to all players, and everyone should stand an equal chance at acquiring things, while if given enough time you can get whatever you wish, and luck still gets to play its part up to a point.