Will there be camps in the new expansion?

[Trisscar]

Sorry Takutu, but this is a dead horse thread. Everyone I have polled in game pretty much say the same thing: we do not want this.

And variations of this exact thread crop up every now again because some narcissistic personalities just like you wanting to crow about being better than every one else. And it invariably gets shut down.

So here, I am not even going to argue the point. Instead I say "Just say no to faux PvP! Support real PvP!"

[Demon6324236]

There is a very big difference between 21-24 hour HNMs, 48-72 hour HNMs, and 3-5 Day HNMs.

The 21-24 hour HNMs, a 10 minute (if it pops first window), to a 3 hour (if it pops final window) event. Guess what else was a 10min-3hour event? Every other event in the game. Between windows you can do other stuff. You don't actually have to sit at your screen staring at it.

The longer camps, were mostly camped by mules until the final window. Sure, there was people camping it themselves if they wanted a piece of gear from it, such as Gaiters. Sorry you actually had to spend time to get good pieces of gear.

I'm not saying every event should be Kings, but they were a really fun part of the game that added a lot.

Maybe if it were 10 minutes~3hours after its last death, sure. Anything that takes roughly 24 hours to potential pop even if in windows will need you to move things around in your schedule for it, not good, or worth it. If when I am normally sleeping for work it is supposed to pop, I have to sleep weirdly just so I can be up during a time I may be able to get it, does this sound like good content? No.

[Sparthos]

Popped, Global or Event HNMs onry pls.

[Demon6324236]

Sorry Tukutu, you've entered the realm of "If it existed before 2010, you can forget about it, because nobody wants it!"

I beg to differ here: Oh boy check out the 200+ Likes!

Anyhow, I agree with your suggestion.

Again, you give FFXIV links as if it is something that should effect this game or as if it of some relevance to this game, it is not. Instead lets look at other posts for FFXI on this subject shall we?

This thread asked for HNMs, it was argued with for 29 pages or so, the final votes near the start of the thread seem to be 14 for, 39 against.

This thread even gave the ability to get the items from other content, Legion, or Einherjar, thus eliminating the need to do the content, while providing it still for those who want it. 14 for, 45 against, this was the final numbers for this long gone thread of last month.

This thread gave alot of info on a new idea that would attempt to stop botting and provide a fair chance to everyone, that way they can all get the NM possibly, final votes here were 12 for, 24 against.

In all of these cases the amount for is half or less than the amount of people against it. This means twice as many people say no to this content, than they do say yes. Your post gives a FFXIV thread which has little to no relevance here, sorry, but this shows the exact opposite of what you want to see, more people say no to the very existence of HNMs even if they were not needed to be done for gear, and it was added to other events.

[Eyeballed]

Again, you give FFXIV links as if it is something that should effect this game or as if it of some relevance to this game, it is not. Instead lets look at other posts for FFXI on this subject shall we?

This thread asked for HNMs, it was argued with for 29 pages or so, the final votes near the start of the thread seem to be 14 for, 39 against.

This thread even gave the ability to get the items from other content, Legion, or Einherjar, thus eliminating the need to do the content, while providing it still for those who want it. 14 for, 45 against, this was the final numbers for this long gone thread of last month.

This thread gave alot of info on a new idea that would attempt to stop botting and provide a fair chance to everyone, that way they can all get the NM possibly, final votes here were 12 for, 24 against.

In all of these cases the amount for is half or less than the amount of people against it. This means twice as many people say no to this content, than they do say yes. Your post gives a FFXIV thread which has little to no relevance here, sorry, but this shows the exact opposite of what you want to see, more people say no to the very existence of HNMs even if they were not needed to be done for gear, and it was added to other events.

My argument isn't for or against what's going on in FFXIV. It's to show that people outside the game might enjoy it in some capacity. Just as much as people have joined/returned to this game because of the changes it's undergone. If you ask me, I think the developers should stop listening to the community and just make the game they want to make. You can't please everyone and you're a fool if you try to.

[Trisscar]

My argument isn't for or against what's going on in FFXIV. It's to show that people outside the game might enjoy it in some capacity. Just as much as people have joined/returned to this game because of the changes it's undergone. If you ask me, I think the developers should stop listening to the community and just make the game they want to make. You can't please everyone and you're a fool if you try to.

True, you can't please everyone, but you can try to please the most people possible... However the majority of people don't want HNM or the like.

You didn't think that all the way through, did you?

[Reiterpallasch]

No thanks, how about we have actually engaging endgame events instead?

Like VW, where you have a ~1% chance of getting an item you really need, but that guy that doesn't need it just got his 3rd?

At least with HNM gear went to people who could use/needed/wanted the item, rather than the crap shoot that VW is.

[Trisscar]

Like VW, where you have a ~1% chance of getting an item you really need, but that guy that doesn't need it just got his 3rd?

At least with HNM gear went to people who could use/needed/wanted the item, rather than the crap shoot that VW is.

I'd rather have something like ZNM, personally.

Oh and your argument is rendered invalid by the existence of DKP. Do try again.

[Demon6324236]

My argument isn't for or against what's going on in FFXIV. It's to show that people outside the game might enjoy it in some capacity. Just as much as people have joined/returned to this game because of the changes it's undergone. If you ask me, I think the developers should stop listening to the community and just make the game they want to make. You can't please everyone and you're a fool if you try to.

[Zhronne]

Uh... Been camping kings for 4 years almost everyday except when the LS was taking small breaks during summer.
On one hand I miss that kind of world, of feelings, of sensations, of competition between LSs. I miss THAT FFXI which doesn't exist anymore nowadays.

On the other hand GOD PLEASE NO, I wouldn't really want to do Kings or Tiamat or Cerberus or Hydra or Khimaira or Sandworm or anything else anymore. NO NO NO, god please no SE, don't add any mobs like that anymore
They wouldn't bring the old FFXI back, just the hassle of it.