To: Mr Akihiko Matsui

[Komori]

But your still paying them money now despite hating the game so much. But you stopped paying them apparently when you fapped to the long year-lasting grinds.

[FrankReynolds]

3) They quit the game to play a better one until the first one got fixed.

fixed that for you. No charge.

[Eyeballed]

fixed that for you. No charge.

You get what you pay for.

[Trisscar]

Oh? Is there a middle ground between us? I thought we already covered that "choice" thing.

Yeah, there is a middle ground between 'true old school' leveling and 'leeching in Abyssea', as many of us have explained repeatedly to you. That's where 'choice' comes in and why you fail so badly.

You imply there are two types of leveling (this is a false dichotomy) and that one is a 'proper' way of leveling and one is a 'lazy' way of leveling (this is poisoning the well and also a false dichotomy), despite how many times we've explained what choices there are and whether those methods are 'proper' or not is subjective.

[Eyeballed]

Yeah, there is a middle ground between 'true old school' leveling and 'leeching in Abyssea', as many of us have explained repeatedly to you. That's where 'choice' comes in and why you fail so badly.

You imply there are two types of leveling (this is a false dichotomy) and that one is a 'proper' way of leveling and one is a 'lazy' way of leveling (this is poisoning the well and also a false dichotomy), despite how many times we've explained what choices there are and whether those methods are 'proper' or not is subjective.

What's the choice then?

[Meyi]

What's the choice then?

Being in Abyssea and actually contributing to the party. Taking smaller groups (not six man) and killing easier monsters for faster exp. Joining GoV parties and actually partaking in damaging the monsters.

There's oldschool, new school, and leeching.

Now what your definition of leeching is is another note entirely. Personally I find anyone not pulling their weight to be a leecher, but we've all been there and done that before we had access to decent atmas/gear, so I'm not judging them too harshly.

[Eyeballed]

Being in Abyssea and actually contributing to the party. Taking smaller groups (not six man) and killing easier monsters for faster exp. Joining GoV parties and actually partaking in damaging the monsters.

There's oldschool, new school, and leeching.

Now what your definition of leeching is is another note entirely. Personally I find anyone not pulling their weight to be a leecher, but we've all been there and done that before we had access to decent atmas/gear, so I'm not judging them too harshly.

And pre-Abyssea? And why is it that people are even able to get away with leeching in Abyssea? No threat, just spam?

[Trisscar]

What's the choice then?

First is duo or trio through truly old school party camps, like in sky. This takes advantage of books, and since you like making things more difficult for yourself than needed you can turn the option of auto-completion off (just don't be too surprised if no one else does).

Second is to duo or trio in CoP or ToAU zones that don't have books in them, like at the old bird merit camp.

Third is you get the **** over yourself and take a duo or trio party to an Aby camp somewhere.

[Eyeballed]

First is duo or trio through truly old school party camps, like in sky. This takes advantage of books, and since you like making things more difficult for yourself than needed you can turn the option of auto-completion off (just don't be too surprised if no one else does).

Second is to duo or trio in CoP or ToAU zones that don't have books in them, like at the old bird merit camp.

Third is you get the **** over yourself and take a duo or trio party to an Aby camp somewhere.

And where from do you suppose I pull this duo or trio from? (Waits for it)...

And once I get the answer to that, where do I pull the remaining 3-4 to have a proper six-man party? (Waits for it again...)

[detlef]

Well, there's a good reason not to PT the old way.