To: Mr Akihiko Matsui

[Merton9999]

I find your horse/car analogy a bit flawed in that, why take a car when you could fly; why fly when you could take a rocket; why take a rocket when you could teleport? Where would it end? Start the game at cap so that it's NO LONGER AN RPG? Wake up!!

An analogy isn't flawed because your extension of it fails. I could just as easily claim you're suggesting we crawl with a broken leg to our level cap.

In any case I don't even think your extension fails. If SE offered a faster leveling method than Abyssea I'd gladly take it, just like I'd teleport to Disneyworld if I could. The reason is that I know when I get there that I'll enjoy the real experience I'm looking for.

That's what you're missing. Seal and +2 farming, empy farming, NNI, Neo-Dyna, VW and Legion all offer teamwork, challenge and growth opportunities that MMOs and RPGs are known for. But you're taking one aspect of the game that changed and looking at the rest of the rich complex experience with blinders on. The rest of the people I know who hated Abyssea leveling at first got over it quickly when they found the gaming experience they used to enjoy later in a better, more robust, more various system with more interesting fights and enemies.

[Merton9999]

Just asked a vet friend ingame what it's like in Voidwatch, and I quoted you as saying "It's just like the old grind parties". His reply was "Lies."

This all makes sense to me now. You literally haven't even tried what was added to the game that comprises the reason they made leveling so fast. I'm getting flashbacks to kids I used to tutor who have never been out of their home town and think the whole world is dull and scary.

[Eyeballed]

An analogy isn't flawed because your extension of it fails. I could just as easily claim you're suggesting we crawl with a broken leg to our level cap.

In any case I don't even think your extension fails. If SE offered a faster leveling method than Abyssea I'd gladly take it, just like I'd teleport to Disneyworld if I could. The reason is that I know when I get there that I'll enjoy the real experience I'm looking for.

That's what you're missing. Seal and +2 farming, empy farming, NNI, Neo-Dyna, VW and Legion all offer teamwork, challenge and growth opportunities that MMOs and RPGs are known for. But you're taking one aspect of the game that changed and looking at the rest of the rich complex experience with blinders on. The rest of the people I know who hated Abyssea leveling at first got over it quickly when they found the gaming experience they used to enjoy later in a better, more robust, more various system with more interesting fights and enemies.

So what you're saying is you want this game to be more "Adventure" than "RPG". God of War, Prince of Persia, hell even Zelda come to mind when all you're looking for are big fights and nice drops. That's not what this game is meant to be about, or any RPG for that matter.

[Demon6324236]

Just asked a vet friend ingame what it's like in Voidwatch, and I quoted you as saying "It's just like the old grind parties". His reply was "Lies."

What did you do in old grind parties? You killed the same kind of mobs over and over again for xp. What do you do in VW? You kill the same NM over and over again for a chance at gear. Both are grinds, both are similar, difference being that now its a bunch of zergs and procs, before it was a bunch of haste & cures, with TP spamming. You said you liked the grind, why not ask your friend if VW is a grind, because thats what most people see it as too, thats why its drops are complained about.

[Demon6324236]

So what you're saying is you want this game to be more "Adventure" than "RPG". God of War, Prince of Persia, hell even Zelda come to mind when all you're looking for are big fights and nice drops. That's not what this game is meant to be about, or any RPG for that matter.

Its not a RPG, nothing is a RPG simply by fact of leveling, this is whats called a "MMO" sound it out if need be, its ok, trust me, that is what this game is, not a RPG. Say what you will but its still FFXI, nothing changed except leveling went from slow & boring to fast & easy.

[Eyeballed]

What did you do in old grind parties? You killed the same kind of mobs over and over again for xp. What do you do in VW? You kill the same NM over and over again for a chance at gear. Both are grinds, both are similar, difference being that now its a bunch of zergs and procs, before it was a bunch of haste & cures, with TP spamming. You said you liked the grind, why not ask your friend if VW is a grind, because thats what most people see it as too, thats why its drops are complained about.

In VW, do you have a puller, tank, DD and healer? Is there a real threat of death/wipe? Nobody argued that it wasn't a grind. What you said was "It's just like the old grind parties". There's a difference. Learn it.

Its not a RPG, nothing is a RPG simply by fact of leveling, this is whats called a "MMO" sound it out if need be, its ok, trust me, that is what this game is, not a RPG. Say what you will but its still FFXI, nothing changed except leveling went from slow & boring to fast & easy.

It's not the FFXI I know. It's the FFXI you know.

[Mirage]

There is no real difference in spending hours to get stronger from base stats increasing, and spending hours to get stronger by gear stats increasing.

It's only different in your mind.

[FrankReynolds]

Just asked a vet friend ingame what it's like in Voidwatch, and I quoted you as saying "It's just like the old grind parties". His reply was "Lies."

It's very much the same. You get a big group of people together, you go to a camp, and you kill the same crap over and pover for hours. The more crap you kill, the higher level camps you can go to.

But you would know that if you ever did any of this stuff your complaining about.

So what you're saying is you want this game to be more "Adventure" than "RPG". God of War, Prince of Persia, hell even Zelda come to mind when all you're looking for are big fights and nice drops. That's not what this game is meant to be about, or any RPG for that matter.

Every RPG is different and you don't get to decide what is and isn't an RPG for the whole rest of the world. Whats more is that this game has three very important letters before the RPG that change everything. And even if they made this game into a first person shooter, it would have absolutely no bearing on your argument for shitty grinds that no one wants.

Edit: You keep saying that they changed the game that you paid for into something you don't like. I would like to point out that this is a subscription service. Don't like it? Don't pay. Do you pay for the channels that you don't like at your house instead of just the ones you like? Why don't you go post on telemundo's message boards and tell them they need to play nothing but english content, because you used to like channel 47 before they took it over with spanish stuff and you don't care what the millions of viewers they have now want? see how that works out.

[detlef]

Just asked a vet friend ingame what it's like in Voidwatch, and I quoted you as saying "It's just like the old grind parties". His reply was "Lies."

You guys are arguing with someone who has never done any sort of endgame content. He has never done Voidwatch. He's never done Legion. I'm actually wondering if he has done Dynamis, Limbus, or Einherjar.

In VW, do you have a puller, tank, DD and healer? Is there a real threat of death/wipe? Nobody argued that it wasn't a grind. What you said was "It's just like the old grind parties". There's a difference. Learn it.

In fact, I'm starting to even wonder if he leveled to 75 (even on another character). I don't think Eyeballed was around for colibri, or he certainly wouldn't even mention a real threat of death/wipe.

I'm starting to wonder if he is confusing FFXI for another game he used to play.

[FrankReynolds]

You guys are arguing with someone who has never done any sort of endgame content. He has never done Voidwatch. He's never done Legion. I'm actually wondering if he has done Dynamis, Limbus, or Einherjar.

In fact, I'm starting to even wonder if he leveled to 75 (even on another character). I don't think Eyeballed was around for colibri, or he certainly wouldn't even mention a real threat of death/wipe.

I'm starting to wonder if he is confusing FFXI for another game he used to play.

I've been thinking the same thing.