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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    If you define hardcore as asking for challenging content, then I feel very sorry for the future generations who get by on "This is too hard, can you make it easier? No, this is too hard too, easier? Ugh, is there a 'just get me to the boss' setting?"
    Nice putting words into my mouth, ace. I like a challenge as much as anyone else, but 'challenge' is a far cry from tedious, boring, stress inducing gameplay like the old school way of leveling was.

    Remember you aren't talking to someone who just started playing yesterday, you're talking to someone who's been active for nearly six years without quitting or taking extended breaks from the game despite how bad it sometimes got. I've been playing long before level sync came about, long before FoV or GoV, long before WotG and Campaigns, long before Aby.

    I've been in some truly old school parties in the under croft of the tombs and Bibiki Bay. I've been in more experience points parties than I could ever count in pretty much every corner of FFxi including an imp party on Khimeria's island. I once knew every party camp by heart.

    I've been in some truly epic parties that I will never forget. Once, I joined a party at level 23 on Qufim Island. It lasted nearly 12 hours and by the time we disbanded we were departing Yhoat Jungle. The same people that joined the group at the beginning were the same people that left, with very little down time and no PL.

    This is, admittedly, an atypical party and more often then not parties were troublesome. Flagging up endlessly for an invite, only to get a party that usually disbands in less than an hour with little experience gained and it wasn't all that uncommon to leave with less experience than you entered with. Douchebag leaders, party members with no clue about the most basic of game mechanics, sub par healers, people with gimp gears, and on and on and on.

    This is not a challenge, it's a torture session.
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  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    The option is there, so if the choice is what you seek, then it is available, however if you seek to change the game itself entirely and change it for others as well, on a large scale, you have to admit, this is selfish on a few levels.
    I said this way back there, but I'll say it again. Do a /sea all XX-XX and send out tells for a classic party and see how many takers you get. Go ahead. Once you've done that, and awesomely failed, come back to me and tell me about options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    I said this way back there, but I'll say it again. Do a /sea all XX-XX and send out tells for a classic party and see how many takers you get. Go ahead. Once you've done that, and awesomely failed, come back to me and tell me about options.
    I never said it would be easy, but let me point out, doesn't that kind of show you how many people you would be hurting with this, or how many disagree with you?
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon6324236 View Post
    I never said it would be easy, but let me point out, doesn't that kind of show you how many people you would be hurting with this, or how many disagree with you?
    It does one thing absolutely: Prove that we do not, in fact, have that option so readily as you all claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    I said this way back there, but I'll say it again. Do a /sea all XX-XX and send out tells for a classic party and see how many takers you get. Go ahead. Once you've done that, and awesomely failed, come back to me and tell me about options.
    The rate at which you're building those parties is roughly equivalent to the rate at which I was able to build parties back in 2009 before Abyssea was around.

    You're just looking for a scapegoat.
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    It does one thing absolutely: Prove that we do not, in fact, have that option so readily as you all claim.
    The effort of building such parties was much worse before level sync and FoV/GoV. You're just making excuses, like all the people who don't have CoP completed now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    It does one thing absolutely: Prove that we do not, in fact, have that option so readily as you all claim.
    You have friends I would take it, you should ask them to come with you. You can Level Sync, just only fight mobs at your level and move up as you go, it should be the same as no Auto-Pages or abyssea.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    The rate at which you're building those parties is roughly equivalent to the rate at which I was able to build parties back in 2009 before Abyssea was around.

    You're just looking for a scapegoat.
    Gotta be something else. I present you with a fact and the best you can do is blame me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    I said this way back there, but I'll say it again. Do a /sea all XX-XX and send out tells for a classic party and see how many takers you get.
    This alone should be proof enough for you that the "old" methods of exp are generally unwanted by the community as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    The effort of building such parties was much worse before level sync and FoV/GoV. You're just making excuses, like all the people who don't have CoP completed now.
    I'm somewhat surprised no one ever tries to make a thread about how we should go back to having caps on CoP so that people have to work together and all that for it.
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