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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Because in my opinion, it doesn't feel like one any more. Not in the way it's currently being designed and embraced. I don't have to like or dislike it, but as a matter of fact, I do not like it.
    Then go play another game. What you're asking for is too much. You don't play an MMO with the idea that the game developers are going to turn the game into something that suits your personal tastes, despite the fact that you're one of the few people who wants the things you're asking for. It's a selfish and deluded way of thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Then go play another game. What you're asking for is too much. You don't play an MMO with the idea that the game developers are going to turn the game into something that suits your personal tastes, despite the fact that you're one of the few people who wants the things you're asking for. It's a selfish and deluded way of thinking.
    You mean revert it back to the way it used to be? Back when I bought it? That's like saying, "I bought a brand new sports car last year and last month it spontaneously morphed into a mini-van". And, you're saying I should just be OK with that; That's a selfish way of thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Because in my opinion, it doesn't feel like one any more. Not in the way it's currently being designed and embraced. I don't have to like or dislike it, but as a matter of fact, I do not like it.
    Unless, you can get your post more positive votes/likes than the tiny minority you have. Our community has shown you that your vote, opinion and/or request deserves the middle finger. Why the middle finger?, because you want to break our game again. The majority seems to like the changes to the experience point syatem. By telling the new developer DO IT MY WAY I'm the target audience you're trying to go over everyone eases head. This topic is arrogant like you're some special prodigy person that deserves a direct audience with the developer.

    In before you say something like, the members of these forums don't represent the community. I'm going to point this out. If they care enough to visit these forums and contribute they're vested interest is greater then the average Jane/Joe on the game.

    Look at this closely..

    The FFXI community has spoken, the majority has spoken, The community has voted the majority has voted.

    YOU ARE THE MINORITY, YOU LOST GET OVER YOURSELF!

    Unless the developers are crazy they'll ignore your request completely. There's no need for you to try and defend your argument at this point doing so only makes it more apparent how much the player majority disagrees with you. Everyone has a right to an opinion but most of them post suggestions to the community as a whole not to the producer directly.
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    Last edited by Sarick; 08-03-2012 at 08:32 PM.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    Unless, you can get your post more positive votes/likes than the tiny minority you have. Our community has shown you that your vote, opinion and/or request deserves the middle finger. Why the middle finger?, because you want to break our game again. The majority seems to like the changes to the experience point syatem. By telling the new developer DO IT MY WAY I'm the target audience you're trying to go over everyone eases head. This topic is arrogant like you're some special prodigy person that deserves a direct audience with the developer.

    Look at this closely..

    The FFXI community has spoken, the majority has spoken, The community has voted the majority has voted.

    YOU ARE THE MINORITY, YOU LOST GET OVER YOURSELF!

    Unless the developers are crazy they'll ignore your request completely. There's no need for you to try and defend your argument at this point doing so only makes it more apparent how much the player majority disagrees with you. Everyone has a right to an opinion but most of them post suggestions to the community as a whole not to the producer directly.
    Here's a link to another game that you may or may not be familiar with that's currently struggling, and has been for a long time. Related Forum Post.

    Notice the count on your precious "Like" button.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Here's a link to another game that you may or may not be familiar with that's currently struggling, and has been for a long time. Related Forum Post.

    Notice the count on your precious "Like" button.
    getting to level 10, 15, 20, 30 real challenges away from the repetitive levequests, and gratify us with oportunities that open up at every stage: Environmental puzzles, mysteriously coded scrolls, incomplete maps, a bit of Myst in Eorzea.
    This is about making it more relevant, for people to want to take another path. The topic says STOP THE GRIND TO ENDGAME MADNESS. You're topic is requesting to make it a grind or bring back the grind. The link you posted doesn't ask to bring back the old leveling system. It ask to improve on the game to new standards. The developers have already been doing this by adding level sync, FOV GOV etc. It's completely opposite the way your topic promotes changes.

    This logic of yours fails. I would agree with this guy and still not agree with the post topic you made because you're asking for something different. You're asking to force the old ways back on players. The post you link ask to make the experience more enjoyable with a higher sense of satisfaction/accomplishment. The BRING back the old ways you promote is apples vs oranges and doesn't accomplish this for 90% of the player base.

    Point, you still lose.

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    This as well :
    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    All I saw was a link to a forum regarding a game that was not FFXI and is therefor not relevant to this discussion.
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    Last edited by Sarick; 08-03-2012 at 10:55 PM.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    This is about making it more relevant, for people to want to take another path. The topic says STOP THE GRIND. You're asking in your topic to make it a grind or bring back the grind. The link you posted doesn't ask to bring back the old leveling system it ask to improve on the game. The devs have been doing this by adding level sync, FOV GOV etc. already.

    This logic of yours fails. I would agree with this guy and still not agree with the post topic you made because you're asking for something different. You're asking to force the old ways back on players. The post you link ask to make the experience more enjoyable with a higher sense of satisfaction/accomplishment. The BRING back the old ways you promote is apples vs oranges and doesn't accomplish this for 90% of the player base.

    Point, you still lose.
    Do you always read exactly what you want to?

    End anti-newbie discrimination, make every level count. Slow down the pace of advancement. Smell the flowers. Struggle with difficult mobs at every level. Enter awesome events at every step. I long for a game in which the steps forward are packed with excitement and opportunities for fun. Not a rat-race to the end; the end being the only place where you will be considered someone by your fellow-players.

    This is actually more casual-player-friendly than accelerating and stultifying the game, so that almost anybody can get to the "fun-filled end."

    End-obsessed game design fosters fascistic behavior in the community. Plus, it rewards the slacker that doesn't want a life, whereas it penalizes the player with the regular life. Making the advancement mechanics super-easy, the way the developers of this game sometimes seem to believe they should, does not improve the chances for anybody: The "Über" get to the end and get bored too early, the casuals never catch up, and are still discriminated.


    There. That's the rest of it you failed to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Plus, it rewards the slacker that doesn't want a life, whereas it penalizes the player with the regular life.
    Is this really something we should be rewarding or penalizing? Seems like its a little backwards.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Do you always read exactly what you want to?

    End anti-newbie discrimination, make every level count. Slow down the pace of advancement. Smell the flowers. Struggle with difficult mobs at every level. Enter awesome events at every step. I long for a game in which the steps forward are packed with excitement and opportunities for fun. Not a rat-race to the end; the end being the only place where you will be considered someone by your fellow-players.

    This is actually more casual-player-friendly than accelerating and stultifying the game, so that almost anybody can get to the "fun-filled end."

    End-obsessed game design fosters fascistic behavior in the community. Plus, it rewards the slacker that doesn't want a life, whereas it penalizes the player with the regular life. Making the advancement mechanics super-easy, the way the developers of this game sometimes seem to believe they should, does not improve the chances for anybody: The "Über" get to the end and get bored too early, the casuals never catch up, and are still discriminated.


    There. That's the rest of it you failed to read.

    You do realize, most people who read topics that have a large general scope of interest decide based on what influences them the most in the subject matter. This means that if the writer touches on one or two good points a neutral point and one bad point they'll still give a thumbs up. This doesn't mean they agree with everything in the topic. It means that poster did a good job at making everything balance out in an intelligent way.

    Like I said people don't agree with your post. You are threatening to the community and propose to the producer directly. The request you make is bring back old school grinding. No one wants this. They do like the idea of having fun and if it's not obvious having fun currently doesn't involve spending all day looking for party or getting one level.

    This is why your topic fails so hard and the other topic succeeds so well. You did a horrible job at making people like what you have to say because the way you advertise is what people hate the most. Perhaps you should've just cut and past that link or just plain bumped that topic because the topic you made sure isn't selling anyone who wants a better game.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarick View Post
    You do realize, most people who read topics that have a large general scope of interest decide based on what influences them the most in the subject matter. This means that if the writer touches on one or two good points a neutral point and one bad point they'll still give a thumbs up. This doesn't mean they agree with everything in the topic. It means that poster did a good job at making everything balance out in an intelligent way.

    Like I said people don't agree with your post. You are threatening to the community and propose to the producer directly. The request you make is bring back old school grinding. No one wants this. They do like the idea of having fun and if it's not obvious having fun currently doesn't involve spending all day looking for party or getting one level.

    This is why your topic fails so hard and the other topic succeeds so well. You did a horrible job at making people like what you have to say because the way you advertise is what people hate the most. Perhaps you should've just cut and past that link or just plain bumped that topic because the topic you made sure isn't selling anyone.
    ...So, according to your first paragraph you're voluntarily saying that the "Like" button should actually carry little sway because people will pick out one thing they like and then press it? You know what I think? I think the majority of 119 people read the post and understood it and acted accordingly. Sorry if you can't or won't see that.

    I want to be threatening to the community, if you haven't gathered as much yet. "No one wants this" - speak for yourself. There are others out there who definitely do, they just don't play this game much any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyeballed View Post
    Here's a link to another game that you may or may not be familiar with that's currently struggling, and has been for a long time. Related Forum Post.

    Notice the count on your precious "Like" button.
    I can't help but notice that every post on here arguing against you has several likes, while most of your posts have 0.
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