alliance exp vs 6 man exp request / ideas

[Bulls]

That's the thing, with the current way of leveling alliance style, you don't really need auto finder anymore. You no longer need jobs xyz, people know where the camps are, they usually come to the playground with flags up and waiting in line to get invited. I seen many people with flags up, waiting in line to get invited in worm party, and the alliance keeps going 24/7 almost, same goes to Nest party and Gusgen party etc... Even at Zeruhm mine, leecher central for your alts, people will be more than willing to make a group to speed up kill.

Yes, the old ways of leveling forced you to move camps, exploring the game areas, seeing different things and mobs but thats because you can camp for a few level at one place before you have to move on. With the GoV, you can actually do something similar since Boyahda, Kuftal, Quicksand Caves, etc all offer similar thing. But again, people will gravitate to EASY to reach camp. Even in Crawler's Nest, page 2 will let you move to the old school beetle + crawler's camp but people do not do it since they have to navigate the maze that is CN. The same goes to abyssea camp, I mean seriously there has to be more options than your typical doll, buffalo, worm, frogs party... BUT people are lazy, they go for the proven camps, stick with it and will not try for new ideas. Just to prove that leveling grind is HATED by the majority of the players, they want to reach 99 and start having the fun that is endgame.

Also please understand the game mechanic CHANGED drastically, and what we used to call the standard set up has evolved dramatically. Monk, Ninja, Thf, War, Dancer +WHM can pretty much become a duo standard on abyssea NM mob, and then there is also a variety of "Creative Set Up" with pet jobs doing most of the tanking. A tank is not limited to Paladin any longer except for certain end game activities. So in a way, this new found freedom lets people who know their jobs to be creative in finding solutions to solve game mechanic challenge. Similar on how they come up with 2 scholars + 4 heavy melee DD for Neo Nyzul. The rest who still have no clue, will still have no ideas due to laziness and lack of effort to learn - no matter how you get your level.

Granted now that most of us are lvl 99 with various jobs, the new grinds are Voidwatch, Neo Einherjar, Walk of Echoes and Legion for the big alliance style, and neo nyzul/limbus etc for low man style. And those events have various different set ups than what you imagine of "standard set ups".

Luvbunny we get it you don't like my ideas on this topic, you don't have to keep writing paragraphs on why you think it's bad. I've already explained to you in detail what my idea was. you said your piece already and made some good points, but now your point is getting very redundant.

[FrankReynolds]

Luvbunny we get it you don't like my ideas on this topic, you don't have to keep writing paragraphs on why you think it's bad. I've already explained to you in detail what my idea was. you said your piece already and made some good points, but now your point is getting very redundant.

You've already stated your point too. This is basically a contest to see who gets the last word now.

[Bulls]

You've already stated your point too. This is basically a contest to see who gets the last word now.

Last word? lol do you see anything in that post to luvbunny about what this post is even about? Jeeze dude stop trying to instigate arguments about stupid shit that doesn't even relate to the topic.

[Karbuncle]

Derailing a Derail is totally not Derailing if its being Derailed by the OP.

I actually have an Idea though. Flesh out your idea. Compile it in the OP as well, Edit it and take the ideas that have been made here.

[Luvbunny]

Luvbunny we get it you don't like my ideas on this topic, you don't have to keep writing paragraphs on why you think it's bad. I've already explained to you in detail what my idea was. you said your piece already and made some good points, but now your point is getting very redundant.

I don't dislike your idea, it has some good points, with further thinking and more fleshed out ins and outs maybe could become a really valid one. You never know, the new expansion is coming out soon, maybe they will present us with another novel game mechanic, just like ToAU changed the way we do xp party, WoTG introduced a free for all battle system, and Abyssea further reboot the entire system - Seekers of Adoulins could give us entirely brand new mechanic. And hey, your idea may be one of the new things, you never know

[Bulls]

Derailing a Derail is totally not Derailing if its being Derailed by the OP.

I actually have an Idea though. Flesh out your idea. Compile it in the OP as well, Edit it and take the ideas that have been made here.

good idea

[Bulls]

I don't dislike your idea, it has some good points, with further thinking and more fleshed out ins and outs maybe could become a really valid one. You never know, the new expansion is coming out soon, maybe they will present us with another novel game mechanic, just like ToAU changed the way we do xp party, WoTG introduced a free for all battle system, and Abyssea further reboot the entire system - Seekers of Adoulins could give us entirely brand new mechanic. And hey, your idea may be one of the new things, you never know

mmkay , lol ya never know anything can happen.

[scaevola]

Is it just my imagination or is the recent flux of people reactivating a giant group of bawwing nooblets? I've been seeing a lot of people in the game who are shunning alliance exp, cleaves, and abyssea in-general. It's almost like they want to stay forever-gimped. Ironically, these have all been people who never did endgame or understand it.

My favorite is the crocodile tears wrt CoP level caps being eliminated.

EDIT: my necros are the best necros

[Luvbunny]

My favorite is the crocodile tears wrt CoP level caps being eliminated.

Yeah I remember the uproar when this happened, all the crocodile tears and all who actually crazy enough to spent some time doing this, me included twice for different characters before the nerf lol. I do LOVE the fact that this missions are nerfed into oblivion and now there is almost zero challenge to finish it, which is face it a bunch of running around non sense with a very long unskipable CS all for one ring at the very end.... Glad all missions are now completely manageable with only a couple people to complete.

[Bulls]

Its good to have ideas, though for yours to work they have to do massive revamping, and SE will not do this. Skillup is like a free time sink for them, and they will not let us do faster skill ups, ever!! Otherwise everyone will do the new way of partying, alliance style lol, doing GoV for massive skill ups - which sadly they actually CAN but yet this has not been pick up by the majority of people and most tend doing it solo the slow way.

The current way of leveling is the best solution from SE part, it get rid of massive annoying problems of changing camps, level synch, finding xyz jobs etc... It democratize leveling and put everyone in similar playing field. And yeah, people took advantage of this, which is predictable, its human nature.

Recently got an idea about the whole skilling up thing, they could add a temp buff or something that brings you to level skill just for the party while your real skill levels up normally in the backround. you would still need to level it for end game and other stuff but it would solve the skill up problem for an auto-finder.