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  1. #81
    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    Now a days its pretty much ever question is met with "look up wiki".
    If someone asks me for advice and I can answer them I will. If I can't answer them I'll refer them to someone else. In any case, I'll still provide them with a link to the wiki.

    Why shouldn't I provide someone with such a valuable tool?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina
    now a days ppl just read wiki vs experiment.
    And people shouldn't learn from the experience of others.... Because?
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    Last edited by Trisscar; 07-20-2012 at 02:04 AM.

  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    now a days ppl just read wiki vs experiment.
    Maybe you should "experiment" with gear swap macros, and see how much of a difference it really makes on your damage and abilities. People like you show that this thread has no purpose really since people who are too lazy to learn how to maximize their performance on their job will not do any better even with all that time spent with old-school partying.
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  3. #83
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    Ahh yes, I remember the good old days before wiki, back when you could get useful advice from your fellow player instead of being forced to follow links to some cold, useless wiki. Here is some great advice I've received in parties. See if you can figure out why learning in parties sucks.

    "You should sub WHM on paladin. That way you can cure yourself more."
    "Blu is a mage job. Please get back with the RDM and help cure."
    "please cast bio, not dia. Bio does more damage."
    as level 30 thief "There's no point in lining up. SA/TA does more damage if you use them separately."
    "beastmaster needs chr. you should sub bard when you solo."
    "Bard should not be pulling. Thief go pull a colibri"
    "We should party in present day misereaux coast at birds. The mobs in abyssea only give like 30-40 xp."
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  4. #84
    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    "Blu is a mage job. Please get back with the RDM and help cure."
    People actually said that? Wow.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    People actually said that? Wow.
    Lol yeah, one group actually tried to make me get off nin sub and go /blm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    6man you killed worms mandies crabs lizards fish giga crawlers, crawler who spit fire, imps, flies.

    you infactr barely fought crabs unless u was ina skill up party...
    Some of the monsters listed here didn't even exist until Treasures of Aht Urhgan. Others were only fought for a short time in one location at a low level. Crawlers make me think, "I loved fighting those because they weren't crabs!"

    What did people fight before imps existed? More crabs. What did people often fight at the higher levels that were more time-consuming? More crabs. What did people fight after graduating from crabs? Various animated weapons forever and ever.

    The further back in time you go, the less adaptable and more monotonous gaining levels and merits was. There's a reason that some people have a very strong and often very bad memory of fighting the same thing over and over. That monster was one of the only two options in the whole game, and the other option required at least a half-hour's walk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    this game was out b4 wiki... so we old school vets had to learn the hard way. Now a days its pretty much ever question is met with "look up wiki". kinda shitty tbh but o well.

    also personal experience in some cases beats reading and mimicing...

    much like ppl coulda figured out the /fume trick just by messing around....

    now a days ppl just read wiki vs experiment.
    And people were terrible at Final Fantasy XI. Flatly terrible. I was terrible. Almost everyone I met was terrible.

    What works in Final Fantasy XI just isn't apparent to the naked eye in most cases. Very little is displayed and the Development Bros have rarely explained how mechanics work. Because of that, experimenting usually has to involve recording a lot of data.

    Why would people even try random emotes towards Voidexhibitionists with no indication that such action would do anything? No monster within Voidwatch, no NPC within Voidwatch, no deranged Development Bro who birthed Voidwatch; not a single one of those said anything about emoting towards the monsters.

    Trying new things generally doesn't involve running around naked with a chocolate sundae on your head with a Siberian dwarf hamster on that sundae in the place of a Maraschino cherry because you've never done that before. It generally involves trying things that, based on some form of reasoning, a bro thinks might work or give him or her pleasure.

    Actually, after thinking about the latter, I urgently need to go buy a Siberian dwarf hamster and some ice cream leaving me unable to finish thi
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    Last edited by SpankWustler; 07-20-2012 at 01:54 AM. Reason: I view "bro" as a gender-neutral pronoun. Bronoun.

  7. #87
    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Lol yeah, one group actually tried to make me get off nin sub and go /blm.
    I know I'm going to regret asking, but dare I ask why they did so?

    Now Rosina, when I first started playing Blue Mage 4 years ago in the Titan server the general advice when I asked was "Don't level BLU, it's a lol job" and other such 'helpful' advice. So I had no one to help guide me and no parties to level in since no one recruited Blue Mages for experience points.

    If not for the many different wiki out there, I doubt I would have been able to take Blue Mage as far as I have. The persistence has paid off, these days I feel like a juiced up HNM and I have gotten the last laugh in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trisscar View Post
    I know I'm going to regret asking, but dare I ask why they did so?
    because it's called blue MAGE and not blu KNIGHT? and had no idea of its melee capacity
    hope it was back when blu was a new job
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    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiko View Post
    hope it was back when blu was a new job
    I wish it was, as well. But the mentality of "If you have MP you're a healer" persisted up to when Aby came around, so it wasn't. Another demonstration of why people who hold the view proposed by the original poster have no clue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    Lol yeah, one group actually tried to make me get off nin sub and go /blm.
    Makes me think of a LS member who was just saying, back in the day, they were kicked out of an XP pt on DRG for being /sam and not /war.
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