Bring back Long spawn/Rare WORLD HNM but put drops in legion/einherjar/other bc also

[Aldersyde]

I think most who actually did einherjar and HNM will agree, you are SERIOUSLY, INCREDIBLY DELUSIONAL, if you honestly think MOST people obtained ebody FASTER doing nidhogg than they did doing einherjar. I'm okay with opinion, which is why i've stayed out of this, but this is just bs.

Waiting ONE WEEK for HQ king, that you have to compete for, odds are low you will claim everytime, is not much different than waiting 3 days for einherjar and doing odin every 2 weeks 100%, which was easier for most groups. Both are artificial time sinks, but claiming nidhogg is probably easier than wiping in einherjar. The average shell claimed nidhogg once every 2-3 weeks. Above Average einherjar group did odin every 2 weeks.




Seriously, stop posting. You're delusional.

The thing is, I didn't offer that opinion...you put it in my mouth and then made an argument against it. When you start seeing things in my words that aren't there, that's delusional.

You think you're putting players who don't want HNM on equal footing by implementing events which offer the same items. The thing is, it's not equal footing at all because pro-HNM people can, and will, the new event as well, to increase the chance of getting the item. You can't mathematically deny that a person doing both events will have an overall advantage over a person doing one. I know I'm repeating myself here but it appears you didn't really get the message the first time.

Learn to read better and/or stop building strawmans.

[Demon6324236]

Decent shells wont take the most useful job in abyssea and the most important healing job in the game if both are well geared? Due to Ukon & Calad I would think also decent~well geared WAR & DRK, no reason to say someone is worthless especially if you don't look at what your talking about. You talk out your ass too, people just having petty fights like this is stupid and why civility is impossible on these forums...

[mikeh]

Decent shells wont take the most useful job in abyssea and the most important healing job in the game if both are well geared? Due to Ukon & Calad I would think also decent~well geared WAR & DRK, no reason to say someone is worthless especially if you don't look at what your talking about. You talk out your ass too, people just having petty fights like this is stupid and why civility is impossible on these forums...

Oh ok. Let's all level WAR + WHM only. That's sure to win something other than abyssea!

[Demon6324236]

Oh ok. Let's all level WAR + WHM only. That's sure to win something other than abyssea!

WAR, NIN, DRK, and WHM, those are 4 good jobs. If you need the person on a support job they have WHM, for abyssea you have them on NIN for procs, tank, DD, basically NIN can do everything with a WHM in abyssea which is what I was referring to btw. DRK & WAR for DDs, WAR for procs as well, DRK for if you need a DRK in VW, stuns, absorbs to make the enemy weaker or steal TP. WAR for straight up DDing with party wide buffs like Warcry & Blood Rage if you are zerging or need some solid damage.

4 jobs that can be useful in endgame very easily, Abyssea being endgame or not you will need to do for any new Emps going into the linkshell or being upgraded to lv90, so it is safe to assume they should be counted as well.

I never said that you should only level WAR or WHM, you said a person is useless because they have 4 jobs leveled and geared, but your in a fight with them and as all uncivilized fights like this are you just throw words at your enemy and hope they stick.

The most important jobs in the game right now are, WAR, MNK, WHM, PLD, DRK, BRD, BST(if people are doing Dyna for currency within the linkshell at all), SAM, NIN(mainly for abyssea when making Emps), SMN(when PD is involved), COR and SCH(when Embrava is involved). That is the list of jobs, that is a total of 12 jobs useful right now outside of procing only positions. Now, when looking at these 12 jobs the 4 jobs listed the person who is "useless" has, are all in this list actually. Meaning in some way at some times they will be useful on all of the 4 jobs geared.

I say again, you are fighting like uncivil idiots, no reason to insult eachother, no need to act like this. You both apparently speak of that which you do not know, so talking as you are now is just making you both look like asses. Threads have been being closed for people arguing and the arguments being reported, rather than letting more threads die in the same week about this topic I rather people stop fighting, and be civil about things for once.

[Rosina]

Nope, this was a mines PT getting up a BRD sub, they started calling everyone a gimp.

Nude WAR/DNC with a sword(only) on skeles. smh

ok i'm not keen on calling ppl gimp for have frealky sub choices...

BUT OMG IS THAT PERSON AN IDIOT. /dnc = useless on skele sword is what skele are strong against. *slams head on desk* at least use a staff or sub mnk and use ur fists... /facepalm.

[mikeh]

Wahhh Internet forums are sometimes offtopic

Awww cute.

[Demon6324236]

Awww cute.

Yep, you get the thread locked then. You keep ignoring whats said and making yourself look like an ass, cool for you.

[mikeh]

Yep, you get the thread locked then. You keep ignoring whats said and making yourself look like an ass, cool for you.

Meanwhile, you're replying to me when i asked you nothing.

H-hello.. Hypocrite police?...

[wish12oz]

Yeah, nah. You're pretty useless. You'd never get in a decent shell with just those jobs.

It's funny that you say that like I dont have those jobs leveled.
WAR 99 MNK 91
WHM 50 BLM 49
RDM 99 THF 99
PLD 99 DRK 99
BST 32 BRD 26
RNG 99 SAM 99
NIN 99 DRG 36
SMN 63 BLU 37
COR 99 PUP 0
SCH 23 DNC 99

Here's the list, with a RDM/WHM/Soon to be SCH mule, and a BRD mule, both of which I will probably get Alexander and lvl SMN for after.

Now lets look at your job selection.
WAR 99 MNK 99
WHM 50 BLM 50
RDM 99 THF 50
PLD 99 DRK 99
BST 30 BRD 99
RNG 99 SAM 99
NIN 99 DRG 99
SMN 50 BLU 23
COR 41 PUP 27
SCH 11 DNC 50

NIN, PLD, 2 support jobs, RNG for ranged damage, 6 melees. While I have NIN, can gear PLD quickly if it becomes useful, TH7, Healer on it's own account, 3 different support jobs on 3 different accounts, RNG, and the best melee with the best gear possible. I guess I beat you here too.

Nice NQ Adaberk too, it goes nice with your 85 Ukon.

Also, I'd have my warrior geared the best it could possibly be in less than a week if i were to make it my sole job, but i won't because that's just plain stupid.

Maybe if you got that, you could get up to my level.

You must have not paid much attention to the Levi HNM scene if you think everything you said to be true.

Maybe you made a mistake and made it on another server? Either way it gave me a good chuckle the first time i read it.

I'd chuckle too if someone so pointedly said everything my LS did. Wanna try again to prove you're somehow superior to me?

[Demon6324236]

Meanwhile, you're replying to me when i asked you nothing.

H-hello.. Hypocrite police?...

No, you did exactly what you have been doing, saying a response with no purpose except to provoke a response from the other and continue your meaningless conflict. Doing so will likely continue it as the post above shows and will end up getting this locked as I stated. Being off of topic is nothing of what I have a problem with, nor is it a reason we have been given for the other HNM threads being closed. Threads have been closed because 2 people or sides with different opinions argued with one another for pages and pages, till it became a battlefield for the 2 and the thread was locked to stop it.