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    Player Faule's Avatar
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    Use GreatGuardian's Example above. It's realistic.


    Edit: Removing my wall to be less confusing.
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    Last edited by Faule; 03-19-2011 at 12:57 PM. Reason: brb making pancakes
    Faule -- Quetz
    Langly -- Ninja land (it's a place don't look at me like that)

  2. #12
    Player Faule's Avatar
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    GreatGuardian did a more realistic example. Thanks to him. Though you're missing the .85 alpha in your WS mod calc as well as you should compare the total from the weapon base D instead of just the gain to the WS Mod.
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    Last edited by Faule; 03-19-2011 at 07:43 AM.
    Faule -- Quetz
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faule View Post
    GreatGuardian did a more realistic example. Thanks to him. Though you're missing the .85 alpha in your WS mod calc as well as you should compare the total from the weapon base D instead of just the gain to the WS Mod.
    D'oh! I knew I was missing something. And yeah, I added in the weapon base D in an edit, I fail at weekend math.

    Edit: Original math should be fixed now, I think.
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    Last edited by Greatguardian; 03-19-2011 at 07:48 AM.

    I will have my revenge!

  4. #14
    Player Faule's Avatar
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    Looks good to me. Well done. <3 weekend math.
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    Faule -- Quetz
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    I tend to offhand my Enchu+2 for increased WS volume (I've solo'd Darkness NIN/dnc outside of abyssea xD) however... seeing your +82 AGI before abyssea buffs makes me cut myself for doing it wrong... I'm somewhere closer to like 50 lol
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    Player Faule's Avatar
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    I started building that weapon, and will probably finish it for shats. But time after time I always come out with a near 2/3 split to my damage in favor of my TP phase (Non Weapon Skill damage). It seems the natural split for me. I wouldn't want to use the lower damage weapon with the higher delay to augment my # of WS's over time.

    For purely building TP as in the case of /DNC. I'd say it's a fantastic tool. But for purely damage I can't find a situation where it triumphs.
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    Last edited by Faule; 03-19-2011 at 12:43 PM. Reason: Spelling win.
    Faule -- Quetz
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    Ughhhh that made my brain hurt for a few minutes.

    So all in all, when it comes to the math of it, the gorget is technically better. Gotcha.

    I have both of them already, and have started to get my base :Hi build together - just had that query as I have had so many friends go farm all their organs etc, finally get their gorget and not notice a single oz. of difference. That has clarified it for me however.

    If your making lasagne and already have a lotttt of chili - you're not going to notice it if you put an extra one in.
    If you don't have any in it, your going to notice it if you do put that one in.. Chili = Agi.
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    Player Faule's Avatar
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    If your making lasagne and already have a lotttt of chili - you're not going to notice it if you put an extra one in.
    If you don't have any in it, your going to notice it if you do put that one in.. Chili = Agi.
    I think I laughed way too hard at this than I should have. Apt, quite apt. Love it. lol
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    Faule -- Quetz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faule View Post
    I started building that weapon, and will probably finish it for shats. But time after time I always come out with a near 2/3 split to my damage in favor of my TP phase (Non Weapon Skill damage). It seems the natural split for me. I wouldn't want to use the lower damage weapon with the higher delay to augment my # of WS's over time.

    For purely building TP as in the case of /DNC. I'd say it's a fantastic tool. But for purely damage I can't find a situation where it triumphs.
    +2 on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faule View Post
    I started building that weapon, and will probably finish it for shats. But time after time I always come out with a near 2/3 split to my damage in favor of my TP phase (Non Weapon Skill damage). It seems the natural split for me. I wouldn't want to use the lower damage weapon with the higher delay to augment my # of WS's over time.

    For purely building TP as in the case of /DNC. I'd say it's a fantastic tool. But for purely damage I can't find a situation where it triumphs.
    I like the enchu specifically because if I proc the miracle attack round (Double Attack Kannagi + all 4 hits on enchu) I can blast Reverse Flourish and slam down a solo darkness... Plus... I like to Ruby light junk... it pisses people off xD
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