Bring back Long spawn/Rare WORLD HNM but put drops in legion/einherjar/other bc also

[Trisscar]

I would like for you, Tuna, to answer me, Trisscar, this very relevant question: "What's in it for me?"

You see, only a handful of players (whom all seem to have severe anti-social disorders) want these world spawn HNMs. So, at some point, you are going to need me in order to fight this thing for you. Not just me, but a lot of people just like me. All for an item that's no better or worse than what we can more easily obtain by some other methods all for a cosmetic difference that serves to illustrate how anti-social you really are... Just so you can gloat how much of a 'better player' you are compared to everyone else.

Make no mistake, that's all it boils down to here. So, again: "What's in it for me?"

[Demon6324236]

Honestly with how you describe it, sounds exactly like afterglow.

[Trisscar]

Honestly with how you describe it, sounds exactly like afterglow.

It does, now that you mention it. Makes me wonder if the people advocating this nonsense are even in their right minds.

"Pay out XX million Gils to XX number of normal of people to waste 4 hours of their lives every 3-5 days for a piece of shiny that makes me feel better about myself."

Sure, sounds legit to me.

[Demon6324236]

Actually even billions from what I see on Phoenix even, thats why I said before that Afterglow is outrageous. 3000 Riftblahblah for 600~800k, 250 Marrow for 15~20Mil, and I have never seen PWs items sold or really shouted for much at all so I have no idea about Mythic, either way prices for these things are well into the billions and completely outrageous especially when you know its only a glow on a weapon for looks not even for effect.

But yeah I know what you mean, it makes you wonder why they bother putting it in really, especially because in my opinion its actually a mark down on you. You got afterglow means you are a completely selfish person most likely. I mean instead you could have bought enough AC for like 25 Relics from start to finish +lv99, but instead you wanted your weapon... to glow.

[Anapingofness]

I would like for you, Tuna, to answer me, Trisscar, this very relevant question: "What's in it for me?"

You see, only a handful of players (whom all seem to have severe anti-social disorders) want these world spawn HNMs. So, at some point, you are going to need me in order to fight this thing for you. Not just me, but a lot of people just like me. All for an item that's no better or worse than what we can more easily obtain by some other methods all for a cosmetic difference that serves to illustrate how anti-social you really are... Just so you can gloat how much of a 'better player' you are compared to everyone else.

Make no mistake, that's all it boils down to here. So, again: "What's in it for me?"

I like you. You say what most of us are thinking. ^_^ Thank you.

[wish12oz]

please LIKE my post. I think we can unite and agree a solution like this would be perfect for both crowds.

3 likes, compared to the original opposition post which has 11. Looks like youre losing!

Also, next time you make a thread, at least present new information that wasnt covered in the other 15 threads about the topic, like I did.

[Trisscar]

Actually even billions from what I see on Phoenix even, thats why I said before that Afterglow is outrageous. 3000 Riftblahblah for 600~800k, 250 Marrow for 15~20Mil, and I have never seen PWs items sold or really shouted for much at all so I have no idea about Mythic, either way prices for these things are well into the billions and completely outrageous especially when you know its only a glow on a weapon for looks not even for effect.

But yeah I know what you mean, it makes you wonder why they bother putting it in really, especially because in my opinion its actually a mark down on you. You got afterglow means you are a completely selfish person most likely. I mean instead you could have bought enough AC for like 25 Relics from start to finish +lv99, but instead you wanted your weapon... to glow.

Actually what they're asking for is much worse than all that combined.

PW, Qilin, and ADL can be spawned as many times as you like, pop items and time constraints permitting. So these 'hardcores' asking us 'casuals' to help them get these items isn't too painful for us and we get something out it.

HNMs they're advocating for is asking us to suffer 4 hours to try and claim an over camped monster so these 'hardcores' can claim 'superiority' to everyone that just helped them if they get their shiny, with rewards going only to those who 'truly deserve it' (meaning them and their ilk, apparently).

Yeah... I'm not exactly feeling the motivation to assist, here.

I like you. You say what most of us are thinking. ^_^ Thank you.

I have that tendency to speak my mind. My shell mates say I'm too negative, though.

[Demon6324236]

Oh I know, I'm just saying I agree I don't understand why SE makes or would make content that is inaccessible, pointless, rare, and worthless like Afterglow or items from HNMs that have slight differences. However at the same time if it keeps me from having to do the same HNMs the way they want while still getting the same gear just without a glow or something, I'm more than happy to accept it.

[Rosina]

tunasushi

I'm hardcore (time) player...

and I got a few questions,

1 WHY does the hnm need to be on long spawn timers?

2 How is putting the hnm on a long pop timer benifitcial to the game?

3 How is putting the hnm on a long pop timer good for the community?

4) How are putting hnm in bcnm/ksnm helping the "casual" players?

if you can please answer those questions I can comment.
And I would like well thought out replies, not "I want it because I want it".

[Winrie]

I'm still wondering why casuals are feeling entitled to only having their crowd tended to, or that they must do HNM if added, along with sub content that provides the exact same gear. Not supporting the OP it's jus a general observation thru the past what.. 4 HNM threads?

Let's go back to znm style NM, simple to farm, fun fights, no drama, good drops. I miss systems like that ^^