New Jobs - Will you aby burn or no?

[Kitkat]

That is mainly the streamlined experience you are seeing over the actual quality of overall players. Personally, in the "old days" you'd tend to pt with generally the same circulation of people each time you got invited to a pt. You'd find the ones that made exp roll in the fastest and stick with them by inviting them the next time around you pt'd. Now it takes less real effort to reach that ultimate xp goal, and in most cases you'll run into people who lvl the job just to get it to 99 and nothing more. That is what you are feeling out of it, the fact there is no effort to be good because it isn't a job they plan to take serious at all. More than likely, due to inventory issues, a mass majority of people only play 2-3 jobs seriously, and possibly up to 4 if they all happen to use a majority of the same gear (like mnk/thf/blu/nin/pup/dnc or sam/drk/drg/war/pld, etc).

When abyssea came around it made playing multiple jobs a bit harder because so much of the gear primarily used was job specific to 1 job. Now that vw/ni2 is where a majority of the best of the best comes from you see people having more than 1-2 job well geared and more along the lines of 3-4 and in some cases 5. Then you also have options to mule/porter a majority of the rare/ex gear you might not be using at all to make space for gear you do need/use. Not the most ideal inventory options...but far better than it was before it in regards to how many jobs you can gear out well now.

Main issue I have with aby-burned new jobs is just that they are new. You'll have people understand general mechanics during the climb to 30, but it'll take a bit of time to apply it to the end of the spectrum. Either that or it'll be massively broken and the flood of bandwagon players will be there to flush out the flaw/exploits so SE can swing the balance hammer and make most of them say "well now this job totally sucks." It's happened before, many times, so it will happen again....the main difference is just how fast it'll happen since most all the bandwagon will be 99 in a matter of days instead of a few weeks.

[Zerich]

Abyssea = Massproduction of gimps that couldnt play if it was like important.

XP works like: Bring a Mass of Underskilled/Lowlevel Players. Bring 2-4 real DDs. Charge for Leeching them up. = Profit

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[Karbuncle]

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YUP.

That said, If i leveled the new jobs, I'd probably solo it. Not because EXP IS DA DEVUL GUYZ... But because I like soloing, and It'll probably be how i do it.

[Trisscar]

YUP.

That said, If i leveled the new jobs, I'd probably solo it. Not because EXP IS DA DEVUL GUYZ... But because I like soloing, and It'll probably be how i do it.

You're a more tolerant Mithra than me, Karbuncle. I did that once, on Blue Mage, and could barely stand it. Then again, that was before FoV and GoV...

[Karbuncle]

Low levels are my favorite. I'd level jobs 1-40 a million times given the chance... Around level 60 or so I might join a Party, but as is, I like soloing... Mostly because i hate people, but also because I like soloing.

[Trisscar]

While we're on the subject, what's a good path to take on soloing a job these days should it come to that?

[Karbuncle]

1-10 in starting areas, I'm sure from here there's some FoV/GoV, But I'm old school... Usually go to Konsch. Highlands or Tahrongi.

at about level 22-ish I go to Qufim, Solo some Worms... Stay there until about level 35 when the Gigas/Pugil page gets slow. At about level 35 I move to Yuhtunga and suicide on Opo-Opo... About level 38-39 I move to the Pugil/Sahagin page... That'll take you up a few levels.

There's better paths, But thats my routine... That was before GoV though, and only FoV. GoV zones are better... But i like to take it slow sometimes.

[FrankReynolds]

If you did know. You would not have anyone, in the Pt that is there for chest and have it do someone in between. (could be even a few Mages or Brds or something not engaged)

On a Sidenote thu:

Say u had like 2 Hours a Day to play. The 'efficient' way to exp would be a nomal party since you get full 650ish(not chained) exp from start right? You wouldn't have to build an exp chain up. Noone does that thu.

So Abyssea while its ok (expwise) and can net like 450k-500k an hour if everyone plays right. Is not for short periods of Time.
Also its like a joke that ppl accept the state some Characters are Geared or which Atmas someone has.

If someone is hurting Party exp, what happend to ask them to get Gear/Atma/Skill first?

That has to do with the party leaders. Regular exp parties are subject to the same problem. When you get a guy with shit gear / atmas, you have to either kick him and get someone better, or put up with sub par exp. The difference being that in abbysea, the party can absorb several shitty players without becoming a waste of time. Where as outside abbysea, if one guy sucks, the whole party is going to have a rough time. Remember old merit parties where the Red Mage would fall asleep, everyone would die and some other group would roll into your camp and take over? Good Times.

Some one has to run to each chest and pop it. While they are running to the chests (there will be tons of them in a fast party) they are not fighting / curing / hasting / whatever. Which means that it doesn't matter if they are level 30 or level 99. The box doesn't open faster based on your level / gear etc..

[Aliron]

What I'll be doing is soloing to about 50~60, of course hoping into parties now and then. At that point I'll start a bit of campaign battles and besieged while still doing the solo/party route, once I near 75 I'll start doing stuff in abyssea.
Usually do the starter areas up to about 12, then went to the highlands to about 18, and kept going from there following the old party routes pre-abyssea, going to the camps at the point the prey became even match to tough

[Tsukino_Kaji]

1: Who care's, I mean really. Are people really so petty they get all bent out of shape because some guy's riding the xp express.

2: And what about good players who use this method? Why is it no one ever point's out how much good it add's when ppl that know what there doing use this method to fill roles.

3: No one standardize a player by level anyways. In a shout it's do you have a relic/emp/mythic or no thank's. Not to mention gear in general will get you excused in a hurry. If your dealing with those type of ppl.

I'm not just directing this to this poster, but to everyone who think's this way. Give it a rest already. Your the only one risking a stroke over it.

Repeating for posteriety.