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  1. #101
    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    Did a quick double check. No difference between Tectra V on/from a lvl 99 and 75. There doesn't seem to be anything % based or scaling about it.

    The new values are:

    Level 99 WHM/RDM
    Protect: 163 -> 178 (15 DEF, previously 10)
    Protect II: 163 -> 203 (40 DEF, previously 25)
    Protect III: 163 -> 238 (70 DEF, previously 40)
    Protect IV: 163 -> 283 (120 DEF, previously 55)
    Protect V: 163 -> 338 (175 DEF, previously 60)
    Protectra V (1 merit): 163 -> 338 (175 DEF, previously 60)
    Protectra V (2 merits): 163 -> 343 (180 DEF, previously 62)
    Protectra V (3 merits): 163 -> 348 (185 DEF, previously 64)
    Protectra V (4 merits): 163 -> 353 (190 DEF, previously 66)
    Protectra V (5 merits): 163 -> 358 (195 DEF, previously 68)
    Augmented Relic +2 feet add +5 def per level for a max of 220.

    I copied/edited Slycers post instead of mine because his looks better. Neither one of us has the earring or ring to see how much those add.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantedmc View Post
    How much defense were you getting?
    T1: 15
    T2: 40
    T3: 75
    T4: 120
    T5: 175

    It wasn't percentage based, and it didn't depend on level either, as Camate's post may have hinted at. Ring/earring still gave 2 per tier, and didn't stack, just like before. Augmented Cleric's Duckbills +2 give +5 per merit.

    And while this isn't WHM related, the Minne songs are also not percentage based.
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  3. #103
    Player Insaniac's Avatar
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    Arcon and I ran into each other on the test server and after testing some minne stuff decided to see how high we could get my PLDs DEF.

    PLD/BLU
    5/5 Tectra5 + Augmented feet
    99 Gjallar Daru SVed Minne 2-5
    Cocoon
    Hydra Kofte

    2389 def.

    Edit: WE FORGOT GALLANT'S ROLL!! =(
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    Last edited by Insaniac; 07-08-2012 at 03:36 AM.
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  4. #104
    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insaniac View Post
    Edit: WE FORGOT GALLANT'S ROLL!! =(
    I don't have COR unlocked, so couldn't have done that, sadly. What would have worked, though, is Titan's Favor. Could get another ~100 Defense from that.
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  5. #105
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    That's a lot of def.

    Now test how much damage reduction this would give you against a level 99 mob compared to 800 def .
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    That's a lot of def.

    Now test how much damage reduction this would give you against a level 99 mob compared to 800 def .
    Might go from hitting you for 200 to about 198.

    (Hahaa... I'm joking of course)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Might go from hitting you for 200 to about 198.

    (Hahaa... I'm joking of course)
    And yet, it might just be true.
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  8. #108
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    I believe mobs pdif bottoms out at 1.0 so it's entirely possible against an EM mob it would do absolutely nothing.
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  9. #109
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    I believe the guys on bg showed that mobs ratio can go under 1.0, it's their min / max formula that is broken. Even at 0.5 ration mobs can still hit you for over 1.0 and won't ever hit you for 0 from defense. Any defense that brings you under 1.0 runs into such a diminishing return that it does nearly nothing.

    Still with this update it might be worth meriting protectra V once, now that it's actually different from Protect IV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelix
    Ragnarok's aftermath is only 5% crit rate, even with lv99, so there's almost no point in using Scourge, you just spam Resolution. Even then you become just a boring meathead DD.

    Apoc with both Catastrophe and Entropy gives you crazy sustain of both HP and MP. With the Haste aftermath you can wear a ton of -PDT and solo almost any 75 content.
    Doing damage is for WAR's, DRK is about soloing 75 content yo.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    I don't have COR unlocked, so couldn't have done that, sadly. What would have worked, though, is Titan's Favor. Could get another ~100 Defense from that.
    And Shining Ruby for another 238 ^^
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