I Know NOTHING about Red Mage. (Un-weaken)

[Babekeke]

The reason that RDM doesn't get a spot in a party is not because RDM is a bad job, but because elitists say RDM is a bad job, and everyone else believes them.
I recently did a bunch of HKCNMs (A Mobline Comedy), and the first 2 runs failed miserably because the non-relic or empy PLD kept dying whilst super-tanking. For runs 3-6, the RDM grabbed all of the mobs instead and had no issues what-so-ever in supertanking all of the mobs while we picked them off one at a time, using the PLD to do what little curing was required.

There were a lot of people complaining that Geomancer was going to take the place of RDM, but they were wrong. Rune Fencer is taking the place of RDM, as the magic-based tank.

As for the OP, removing weakened would be a 'na spell. 'Na spells go to WHM, so this would likely be yet another idea taken from the RDM forums (well, it should have been in the RDM forums) and used on another job.

[Neisan_Quetz]

That doesn't make Rdm useful, that just means your Pld was useless

[Daniel_Hatcher]

That doesn't make Rdm useful, that just means your Pld was useless

Quite, no job should handle Magic better than PLD now, even without an Aegis. It's why I can see Rune Fencer falling flat on it's face.

[cidbahamut]

Silver bullet fixes like the one proposed by the OP are absolutely terrible game design and should not be given any serious consideration.

[Ophannus]

I've watched RDMs solo the abyssean behemoth. Apamedak and Chloris and many, many other monsters.

So can countless other jobs, and faster too.

[DaBackpack]

One of the big problems is that RDM was supposed to be a jack-of-all trades job, but with this endgame content being ~18 people, it's more efficient to just get 3-4 people that are better than RDM at everything it can do.

The job's main specialty, enfeebling magic, is near useless with most endgame content. Additionally, other jobs can do it "good enough" with other benefits.

RDM might have a better chance if the enfeebling magic revamp makes the spells useful enough to warrant RDM again. The best fix to make the job more wanted would be to make that job exclusively better at landing certain enfeebles, but I think this is where the trouble began (since it would be too easy to gravity/sleep/bind and nuke kite tough NMs).
It's a tough situation for RDM and these new jobs aren't making anyone more confident in this job.

[ManaKing]

RDM only has a single niche and it hasn't changed....ever. Are you good at CSS? Can you lock a mob down from being able to execute it's TP moves for 30 seconds and is that long enough for your alliance to zerg it down? The answer can be NO just because the mobs don't have TP moves that can be reasonably stunned. Even off your 2 hour, you can still stun less than every 10 seconds easily when properly geared and buffed.

Seem like a one trick pony? Well that's because that's all that 'jack-of-all-trades' talk boils down to. When you're not in an alliance, you can do whatever you want. But just don't expect to be invited for it because SE didn't intend you to succeed that way and other players are just selfish. I play a RDM that solos/low mans and enjoys it. But I'm not stupid enough to think that RDMs get into alliances because they are needed.

Don't even suggest unweaken for RDM. It will go to Geomancer......or Scholar......or WHM......or BLM.....or BLU......or PUP.....or even Rune Knight before it comes to RDM.

[Reiterpallasch]

Can you lock a mob down from being able to execute it's TP moves for 30 seconds and is that long enough for your alliance to zerg it down?

Yup. A VW group of 18 needs exactly 0 RDMs to have all procs and perma stun.

[Shadax]

This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

I Know NOTHING about Red Mage. (Un-weaken)

It's so so true, if you did, you wouldn't have suddested this for rdm. This has absolutely nothing to do with what rdm is able to do what-so-ever.

RDM needs alot, but it doesn't need this.

Techincally untrue. Rdms don't need more, it's NMs that need less.