Why complain?

[Komori]

Was that hostile? I was just saying, there's always going to be a few gripes here and there. But you can slightly glance at it most the time; and skip over it if it is.

But complaining about complaining doesn't seem to stop the complaining.

And if you've ever said "Damn, why can't this **** be changed, or this **** drop", you've complained about the way SE does things. You just haven't said it directly.

[Emitremmus]

Was that hostile? I was just saying, there's always going to be a few gripes here and there. But you can slightly glance at it most the time; and skip over it if it is.

But complaining about complaining doesn't seem to stop the complaining.

And if you've ever said "Damn, why can't this **** be changed, or this **** drop", you've complained about the way SE does things. You just haven't said it directly.

Didn't mean to single you out there. You can only pick up so much emotion from text ya know, lol.

I've complained about things yes, and I've wished that drop rates for things were higher, but at the same time I know that intricacies in the game are set for a reason. I'm not the developer of the game, if I was it would be really hard to have fun at it in my opinion. SE made this game, so they have deemed what is necessary and what is not. I respect the way things are set, so that's how I'm going to play it. What bothers me is the constant complaining about how SE screws up here or screws up there. Sure everyone is entitled to an opinion, but when the griping is bringing down my personal gaming experience it's kind of upsetting.

[Komori]

I don't like people who constantly complain either. I play the game for fun, not for accoplishment also like you seem to. And I understand exactly what your saying.

The abyssean threads about "OMFG, LEVEL REQUIREMENT TOO LOW. OLD STUFF DEAD" totally wrecks my nerves because the option is still there and all of them are too lazy to shout for parties. Or maybe they should make them happy by completely nerfing the EXP gained in abyssea altogether. <3

[Zumi]

Doesn't really bother me much I only played FFXI once or twice a week at most because I already did everything there is to do for the most part. Got full AF3+2 set for my Paladin, upgraded my Excalibur with trails. Beat WotG missions. The only job I really cared about was PLD. Been playing other MMOs now too.

If SE decides to not bring back FFXI I would be totally fine with it since I already accomplished everything I pretty much could do it.

[Alderin]

I'll agree that FFXI is full of complaining. These forums are a prime example. 90% of the posts I have read are of people whinging about the servers being down - or finding something else to whinge about of course. I think that just goes through to their game attitude as well.

It can be a very negative place in-game. Lots of arrogent people that think they know how to kiss god on the butt, however if you don't like that mentality I would just distance yourself from the players that you know have a very negative outlook on it.

I believe that the whole game is about gear-grabbing essentially. Why do we level a certain job? To go kill stuff and get cool gear for it. Why do we need cool gear for it? So we can go kill more stuff and get more cool gear. When people don't get the gear they are going for - they blame SE for not making drop rates 100%.

It's a terrible circle, and one that a lot of people are stuck in. So they whinge about it.

[Rambus]

I don't like people who constantly complain either. I play the game for fun, not for accoplishment also like you seem to. And I understand exactly what your saying.

The abyssean threads about "OMFG, LEVEL REQUIREMENT TOO LOW. OLD STUFF DEAD" totally wrecks my nerves because the option is still there and all of them are too lazy to shout for parties. Or maybe they should make them happy by completely nerfing the EXP gained in abyssea altogether. <3

I would not mind that actually but my issue with abyssea and exp gain is this.

Before tit was possible to make 1 hr pt and everyone is satisfied, now in abyssea you need to do this slow build of exp chain.

to make it worth going there usually means 2 hrs min your usually expected to be more about 5 hrs.

I don't like that.

Point in saying is this, when you say nerf exp gain does it mean slowing the build? because that is what i would not like, if you mean lowering cap per mob like now its 610 lower maybe 400 then maybe it is managable.

I do not think the answer is nerfing exp gain in abyssea since human natuare don't like to be giving something then have it be taken away ( min entry 30 now make it 75)

If abyssea was 75 to begin with no one would be talking about such things.

[Sivart]

Why bother posting replies in a thread where someone is wanting to have a legitimate discussion? There are going to be complaints in a majority of the threads in this forum. I don't want any hostility, why is this so hard to grasp?

Some people just like to complain, it sucks but it is a fact of life. But thankfully, this forum, like the games we play have an ignore function, if you don't like what they say, don't feed them ammo to fire back with, put them on ignore then you never have to see it.

[Odintius]

Im finding no matter what thread is open there people who complain lol

[Komori]

I would not mind that actually but my issue with abyssea and exp gain is this.

Before tit was possible to make 1 hr pt and everyone is satisfied, now in abyssea you need to do this slow build of exp chain.

to make it worth going there usually means 2 hrs min your usually expected to be more about 5 hrs.

I don't like that.

Point in saying is this, when you say nerf exp gain does it mean slowing the build? because that is what i would not like, if you mean lowering cap per mob like now its 610 lower maybe 400 then maybe it is managable.

I do not think the answer is nerfing exp gain in abyssea since human natuare don't like to be giving something then have it be taken away ( min entry 30 now make it 75)

If abyssea was 75 to begin with no one would be talking about such things.

Nerf the cap down to 400 and make the building sequence even slower! Then people would only go into abyssea for gear; and it would be more endgame!

Then people wouldn't go there to leech and people wouldn't worry about the old areas no longer being unoccupied and we can all fight for camps again.

Or we could all just play how we wanted to and not worry about the rest and people who want to play in older areas could just shout in Port Jeuno to create parties.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

What I am about to mention just haunts me at times. I don't understand it, and I hope someone can shed some light on the matter.

Why is it that I can not go a day playing FF without seeing someone complain about SE? FF is a retreat from the real world for me. It's a great way for me to relax at home after my family is asleep and I'm able to jump into a virtual realm to escape real life matters.

Such an example is something like "I didn't get the drop I wanted. The drop rate is too low. THANKS SE. I HATE THIS GAME.". Seriously? This guy is constantly complaining about things like this, yet he still PAYS for the service? You know, if someone just quit because of this, that's more rational. However people will continue to play day after day, just to complain.

Call me old fashioned, but a game is intended to be fun. It's just that I get such a huge drag from seeing so many players that complain on a regular basis. I enjoy the challenge and hard-work that goes into obtaining something that you want, even if that challenge is monotonous and requires a large amount of effort. I totally understand getting frustrated, I'm 0/100+ on both Leaping Lizzy and the Valkurm Emperor, but this seems like a different matter alltogether.

TL;DR
Play and have fun, or GTFO.

Complainers complaining. It's the only way they no how to go about things.
And the irony of this post complaining about complainers is palpable. lol