Questions about the VanaFest Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway

[Camiie]

It doesn't really matter much at least you get an entry just by doing the survey which is better then nothing.

Tanaka's Mantra: "Hey, it's better than nothing!"

[Sarick]

NA and EU will have separate prizes. NA gets more prizes because there is more NA players.

How are they getting more prizes? More players don't equal more prizes. If you enter a contest for a car and it says 1/5000 and only 500 sign up only one of those 500 will receive the car if they go by the number of participants. If they go by randomness entirely none of the 500 may get the prize. in this case its one entry per account.

Consider this, each account could have (I THINK) 18 content ID's. If doing the mog ticket system each of those id's could enter 10 times totaling 180 entry's. If the Japanese user base has the original event while the US/EU have the separate event no matter how you slice the pie a probability of 1/10 to 1/180 is by far a huge difference in the chances of a player winning.

If you get 180 tickets for a contest with multiple tiers vs someone else who gets only 1 ticket it doesn't take rocket science to calculate the person with 180 tickets has a higher chance of winning more prizes. I forgot to figure in the prizes on the US/EU are a fixed amount for a bigger audience. Looking at the Japanese, prizes aren't a fixed set amount, they have a smaller audience and they can get a lot more entry's per account.

I don't know how anyone can even compare the quality of the 2 events when looking at it in this detail. It's like racing a Yugo vs a formula 1 on a high speed track. One side has an incredible advantage over the other.

It doesn't really matter much at least you get an entry just by doing the survey which is better then nothing.

Sigh, exactly the same do nothing sympathetic mentality that encourages everything that's broken.

[Phafi]

Greetings!

As many of you seem to be curious about the status of the Nomad Mog Bonanza, I’d like to take a moment to explain the current situation.

The North America and European Community Teams have been working diligently preparing for the Nomad Mog Bonanza, but unfortunately due to changing times and differing global laws, we will not be able to hold a Mog Bonanza for NA and EU regions moving forward.

While Japan will hold the Nomad Mog Bonanza at VanaFest 2012, it will mark the final Mog Bonanza of Vana’diel. Furthermore, to make sure that our players in North America and Europe aren't left out, we will be holding a separate event where players will be able to win similar prizes (all the goodies from tier 1, tier 2, and tier3…plus a bunch of other rare in-game items), so rest assured we will be giving you a good opportunity to make all your Vana’diel dreams come true!

Also, even though the Mog Bonanza will be gone, we will be offering a different event for our end of the year celebration for a chance to win the items of your dreams!

We will be announcing the NA/EU event very shortly, so hang tight and look forward to it!

WHAT ABOUT MY RANK 2 DREAM COME TRUE (cause rank 1 sure isn't happening.)

[Zerich]

WHAT ABOUT MY RANK 2 DREAM COME TRUE (cause rank 1 sure isn't happening.)

here's hoping whoever won it, used it on a liberator

[Phafi]

or something useful at least

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

NOTE

Words not appearing in the official "VanaFest Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway" announcement:
contest
lottery
random
drawing

The word Bayohne oh-so-carefully used (doubtlessly on the advice of counsel) was "competition." It is a "competition" to correctly answer a trivia question. That is how they're getting around whatever problematic lottery laws that are in the way.

[Zumi]

How are they getting more prizes? More players don't equal more prizes. If you enter a contest for a car and it says 1/5000 and only 500 sign up only one of those 500 will receive the car if they go by the number of participants. If they go by randomness entirely none of the 500 may get the prize. in this case its one entry per account.

Consider this, each account could have (I THINK) 18 content ID's. If doing the mog ticket system each of those id's could enter 10 times totaling 180 entry's. If the Japanese user base has the original event while the US/EU have the separate event no matter how you slice the pie a probability of 1/10 to 1/180 is by far a huge difference in the chances of a player winning.

If you get 180 tickets for a contest with multiple tiers vs someone else who gets only 1 ticket it doesn't take rocket science to calculate the person with 180 tickets has a higher chance of winning more prizes. I forgot to figure in the prizes on the US/EU are a fixed amount for a bigger audience. Looking at the Japanese, prizes aren't a fixed set amount, they have a smaller audience and they can get a lot more entry's per account.

I don't know how anyone can even compare the quality of the 2 events when looking at it in this detail. It's like racing a Yugo vs a formula 1 on a high speed track. One side has an incredible advantage over the other.



Sigh, exactly the same do nothing sympathetic mentality that encourages everything that's broken.

First off your confusing live Mog Bonanza with in game Mog Bonanza. In 2010 you went to the vanafest site logged in with your account info and picked 1 number. It doesn't matter how many characters you have you get 1 entry. There is no in game Mog Bonanza for any players this time around.

They are doing Live Nomad Mog Bonanza for Vanafest 2012
JP players go to the Vanafest site and they find this link below
https://secure.square-enix.com/enqt/e/NMB2012JP/html

It is to log in to the site and they pick 1 number for their whole account.

You can also see here on their site
http://www.playonline.com/ff11/event/vanafest2012/
Click the 4th tab which has Nomad Mog Bonanza in JP they have the same prizes.

The winning numbers get drawn at Vanafest. There could be 0 Rank 1 winners there could be 40 all depends on if a bunch of people picked the right 5 digit number.

However the US and EU players get to log in take a survey and get placed in a random drawing. We don't pick numbers. If not enough people enter which could be the case since there are a lot of FFXI players who don't read the SE site or forums then everyone could be a winner of some sort of prize.

Most likely the number of prizes allocated to US and EU players were based on the number of accounts in each region.

It might be easier for us to win a prize (if not many people enter) then the JP players. But people who attend Vanafest get the Mog Suit 100% so not like they getting nothing.

[Ophiuchus]

On top of JP getting an actual mog bonanza of which I don't really mind, probably the statistical chances of winning each tier are about the same, but I would have preferred to have a bonanza myself. The NA/EU tier 1 can get you a chance at a 90 relic/mythic/emp. WHILE the JP bonanza tier 1 gives a chance at a 99 afterglow ver of a relic/mythic/emp.... Not that I would win either or but come on SE............

http://www.playonline.com/ff11/event...012/index.html

[Bayohne]

On top of JP getting an actual mog bonanza of which I don't really mind, probably the statistical chances of winning each tier are about the same, but I would have preferred to have a bonanza myself. The NA/EU tier 1 can get you a chance at a 90 relic/mythic/emp. WHILE the JP bonanza tier 1 gives a chance at a 99 afterglow ver of a relic/mythic/emp.... Not that I would win either or but come on SE............

The reason for the differences in the tier one prizes is due to the fact the Nomad Mog Bonanza functions just like previous Nomad Mog Bonanza event, in that you are allowed one entry and must choose your numbers. The chances of winning a tier one prize in the Nomad Mog Bonanza are quite low, as you must get every single digit correct. However, in the Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway, there is going to be a guaranteed tier one winner. Due to this, we selected the prize level accordingly. Hopefully this clears up the reasoning behind the differences in tier one prizes.

[Bayohne]

Ok so EU and NA get 1 Golden Gobbiebag I winner total. Japan gets 1 Golden Gobbiebag I winner in and of itself? I guess by SE reasoning that's fair. I guess you're going by total user population per region or something.

The Golden Gobbiebag Giveaway is the alternative event for NA and EU users that are unable to participate in the Nomad Mog Bonanza. There isn't a Japanese version of the GGG, as they have the Nomad Mog Bonanza.

Why is the new Heroine's Battle access being so limited? I know I'll never win a R/M/E or pulse armor and I couldn't care less about ark weapons or that godawful moogle suit, but I would very much like to be able to do the new fight. At least with the old Mog Bonanza one could guarantee themselves a Rank 5 prize by choosing their numbers properly while more than likely sacrificing a chance at higher tier prizes. Now, there's a good chance most of us will never see the inside of the new battlefield if this is the sole means of orb distribution. That's kinda screwed up.

Our goal is to give the orb out to as many players as possible in the future, and this giveaway is only the beginning of that. As for the "guaranteed rank 5 prize", as I said in a previous reply, this isn't a replacement for Mog Bonanza, and does not function the same way (users can purchase marbles with different digits to try and guarantee a rank 5 prize). In the future, we'll be evaluating how to give away the fun things that have been included in Bonanzas throughout the years (statues, event battlefields, etc.)

I know I'm just shouting into the wind as far as the devs go and will probably be told in various ways to stop whining by my fellow posters, but it would be nice if we could all get Athena Orbs.

You're not shouting in the wind - we're here. Hopefully my explanation above can give some insight into the thought process, but like I said, we'll be continuing to look for ways to get content like the Heroines' Holdfast out to many players.