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  1. #21
    Player Milva's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    Because SCH is a better healer and nuker than RDM.

    Given this particular set of circumstances (only need 1 SCH, and for some reason need a 2nd mage instead of a 5th DD), RDM wouldn't be a horrible choice. But SCH would be better.

    Let me throw another reason in here: If you only needed 1 SCH for embrava, and if you needed a 2nd mage for some reason instead of a 5th DD, you should bring a 2nd SCH anyway JUST IN CASE people end up dying or d/c'ing and lose Embrava. This is a better reason than at first it may appear because so far our group has on average 1 d/c per qiqirn floor.
    I have nothing against SCH, but more against two party slots being locked SCH SCH. DD slots you are more free to fill in with anything that can swing a sharp stick in the general direction of the enemy. One SCH is enough to cover Accession/Perpetuance Embrava and Regen V. For all other nuking/curing/buffing/debuffing duties there are jobs out there as proficient or even more. Hell, if not for Embrava, you could bring even a lolPUP to toss out V.Smites whilts WHM auto does exastly what the second SCH would. Anyways, nuking is hardly needed in NNI, reason being, fodder mobs die too fast (so do the bosses), unless it's a PDT NM pudding, in which case your BLM/RDM (who could normally run around and haste/cure4 people just as a SCH would) can Fanatic-Manawall-Manafont-Thundaja/Thunder5/Thundaga3 it to death more swiftly (for example).
    2xSCH is nice, but for some people SCH+RDM, SCH+SMN, SCH+whatever might be more fun. But in all cases, at the moment, the grave disability is lack of second Embrava.
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  2. #22
    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    SCH Lv 99
    If wishes were fishes we'd all cast nets.

    If you took SCH completely out of the equation then you'd probably have a whm and a brd mule to sit at the rune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

  3. #23
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    - Reduce maximum floor size
    - Remove/adjust Mine Qiqirn like mobs
    - Remove Order, Same time isn't that bad, code is easy.
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  4. #24
    Player Milva's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    If wishes were fishes we'd all cast nets.

    If you took SCH completely out of the equation then you'd probably have a whm and a brd mule to sit at the rune.
    This event was built around Embrava. If you ever try it, you'll realise the constant regen topping up DDs is one of the reasons you can get past F50 with everyone alive. One WHM and BRD mule can't cover all DDs running all over the place at flee speed.
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  5. #25
    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Heh, if I ever try it.

    We usually have a mythic DRG and 2 apoc DRKs, all of which are pretty capable of keeping themselves alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler View Post
    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    Yea with embrava and regen V you can aggro several mobs on War and not even really care while trying to take down a spec enemy.
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  7. #27
    Player Trisscar's Avatar
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    Trisscar
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    Asura
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    BLU Lv 99
    Just a question here, why isn't the BLU doing some assist healing? Yeah, I know. I wouldn't rely on a BLU main healer for heavy duty healing situations nor would I offer up to be main healer as BLU either. But you get two BLU together with some healing spells set and they can still DD.
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    Player Raksha's Avatar
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    Which BLU?
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  9. #29
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    SAM Lv 99
    Lol demon and rdm DD still. Man get used to the fact that rdm is a solo job now. It is not party friendly, nor is it a proper DD. Seriously a brd could outdamage red mage physically.
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  10. #30
    Player Fupafighter's Avatar
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    Siren
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    SAM Lv 99
    A proper blu is actually amazing for neo nyzle. Long stuns, great weaponskill in CDC, sleep stuff, ect. The problem is alot of blu think that having an almace makes them good. They truly are valued to me more than a 2 hander if done properly.
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