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    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    I think you don't know that transfering 16 characters on a same ID cost the same price as one. How do you think most of the mythics get done ? If you have 2 characters you can transfer back the alexandrite without having to wait 3 months too.
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    Actually I do realize the price but I don't think you take the service fees into account on 2 accounts with maxed characters or maybe you have 600m to send to each server unlike most so you can buy out every server as it comes up without worry that the Gil you sent to that server and the inflation you will most likely cause. If I was factoring in $25 a character it would be much closer to the $1000 range.

    Incase you don't feel like doing the math (13 base plus 16 for the mules for 29 x2 for 58 x2 for 2 months use so 116 plus 50 for the transfers for 166) let's also take into account I have to purchase another copy of ffxi and wait 3 months for the 2nd account to even be eligible for transfer. You could save I guess 16 by waiting to make the mules but even if you cut every cost your probably still looking at about $150 to do this

    I will correct my previous price range though if everything works in your favor it's going to only cost you like 108 usd if you already have the 2nd mule the Gil to not worry about running out and can get back in 1 months time so it's more like 108-200

    Also most mythics done now were completed or at least had a fair amount done when alexandrite was not as huge an issue because people were doing salvage. But this thread is about trying to stimulate the current alexandrite market not about spending real money to import a non existent product by trying to clear up some common misconceptions people have about salvage and it's profitability as an event.
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    Is this were you take into account the price it would cost you to farm 30k alex solo ? Do I have to point out that in order to be able to solo farm alex you will NEED to pay for 3 different accounts everymonth for more than one year ?
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    Actually I have friends that are willing to take 5s to warp during the entrance to help me go or even go with me.

    On top of this I think you are completely missing the point of this thread as its not about me solo farming Alex for the next year it's about getting people to look at the profit that can be made from it to get more interested in farming it on their own.
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    It is my preferred way to make gil at the moment. Here is a guide:
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    i would do salvage for profit, if i could enter myself and only my mule. Sadly you need 3 peopel to enter savlage, and 3 people to get points for salvage permits... So yeah this kills it.
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    Perhaps if alexandrite was salable on the AH, market forces would more easily drive the price up high enough to the point where people would be willing to farm it for gil.

    On the other hand, other than buying dynamis currency and alexandrite, is there really much of a point to gil any more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    i would do salvage for profit, if i could enter myself and only my mule. Sadly you need 3 peopel to enter savlage, and 3 people to get points for salvage permits... So yeah this kills it.
    This is why dynamis is miles better . Actually even if you tribox it's miles better. The claimed 75 coins average 1.5M for 100 minutes only (make it 2 hours since you have to get assault points too). A dynamis tribox is probably 300+ coins easily with 25 forgotten.

    25 forgotten at 15k : 375k
    300 coins at 7k : 2.1M

    The end.

    If you want to match dynamis the coins price must be so that

    300*x+275k=1.5m => x=4k, so it's going to be in a loooong time, probably never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    Perhaps if alexandrite was salable on the AH, market forces would more easily drive the price up high enough to the point where people would be willing to farm it for gil.

    On the other hand, other than buying dynamis currency and alexandrite, is there really much of a point to gil any more?
    Skill up 110~150
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    This is why dynamis is miles better . Actually even if you tribox it's miles better. The claimed 75 coins average 1.5M for 100 minutes only (make it 2 hours since you have to get assault points too). A dynamis tribox is probably 300+ coins easily with 25 forgotten.

    25 forgotten at 15k : 375k
    300 coins at 7k : 2.1M

    The end.

    If you want to match dynamis the coins price must be so that

    300*x+275k=1.5m => x=4k, so it's going to be in a loooong time, probably never.
    You're a liar and a fraud.
    • 75 is average before boss pouch, which adds another 375k to the Salvage average.
    • You don't need to 3box, nor do you need to waste a friend's time. Unless you count the 5min it takes them to get to the gate, because that's all they have to do. And they'll never use their permit, ever.
    • One 10min Assault will last you three runs. However, if you wanna kill two birds with one stone, you may as well get Captain rank for your mule in the process. New Assaults will yield massively more AP and going to Captain once will be enough to last you for months of Salvage. I still have over 80k AP and entry costs only 500, all from when I did Captain back in the day. Since I started doing Salvage regularly I ranked her up to SP, only two ranks, and she never did Assaults before. I didn't do a single Assault with her in two weeks and she still has points left over.
    • It's not 100min, it's 90min with a RDM, SCH or WHM support, ~80min (or less, depending on skill) with BRD support. On a flawless run I can get in under 85min as THF+WHM.
    • It is infinitely harder to get 300 coins and 25 forgotten than to clear Salvage. You probably need a BST mule to achieve that.
    • Most importantly, it's not about "winning", as you can do both. If you don't think 2M average in ~90min is comparable to Dynamis you're completely out of your mind. Not that I'd be shocked, though.
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