10th Vana'versary Mog Bonanza

[Alhanelem]

So, what you're saying is that just because SE posted that they were going to have the event, along with a list of prizes and screenshots, doesn't mean they were ACTUALLY going to go through with the event.

Said list of prizes and screenshots was never posted on the NA website. No announcement was made on the NA website. where did people get the idea that we were officially going to be able to participate? SE never said nor directly hinted that we would.

I know the event held at Vana'fest is, but I'm talking about the Bonanza and co. that we have had in the past with no real-life festivities.

Well that's something different altogether. I doubt that legal reasons is why they're not having it anymore. i am only talking about the live contest.

We are planning to use 1 or 2 of these for our 10th Anniversary Mog Bonanza. Hope you are all looking forward to trying them out.

Not the Nomad Mog Bonanza, the one that happen's at Vana'fest. SE never said we'd get to participate in the nomad mog bonanza.

[Phogg]

Said list of prizes and screenshots was never posted on the NA website. No announcement was made on the NA website. where did people get the idea that we were officially going to be able to participate? SE never said nor directly hinted that we would.

Well that's something different altogether. I doubt that legal reasons is why they're not having it anymore. i am only talking about the live contest.

Not the Nomad Mog Bonanza, the one that happen's at Vana'fest. SE never said we'd get to participate in the nomad mog bonanza.

Did you actually read Camate's response in this thread? There will be no mog bonanza in NA or EU regions moving forward, and the JP only event will be the final bonanza of any form. That is what we are discussing, not the nomad moogle Vanafest event.

The 10th Anniversary Mog Bonanza, as the link I provided twice now indicates, was actually announced and promoted in the english forums. It has since and at some unknown time been canceled, but the players were only informed of this change when brought up in the forums by customers, which is a credibility and consumer confidence issue.

They let over 2 months pass after promoting the event before making this announcement. Given that the event typically has required a certain period of character activation to be eligible in the past, and also given that people like myself use mules to hold our marbles for the event, the lack of communication is disturbing. The post I linked is misleading at the very least, and that is concerning.

[Jile]

ok. Take away the event I was looking forward to >.>

But. I suggest the following in replacement.

Give us an annual event npc that we can give 2,000gil to and it gives us a random prize coupon which could be exchanged for different prizes. Without the "lottery style" number drawing that SE has been doing to make it appear like a real "lottery" the prizes shouldn't be categorized the same but gives us the same potential benefit of the old event. Give us the limit of 10 prize coupons that we can purchase per character, which would be similar to the previous "lottery".

[Dragoy]

I know the event held at Vana'fest is, but I'm talking about the Bonanza and co. that we have had in the past with no real-life festivities.

Well that's something different altogether. I doubt that legal reasons is why they're not having it anymore. i am only talking about the live contest.

Yeah, I figured you were. ^^

That's what I poked about with the 'why not create a bonanza for the rest, too, that is not tied to the live one'. I can't remember from the previous festivities if they had something for us. I do think it would not make sense really for us to be able to participate in a contest that is held over there, so probably not.

Now that I think of it, it was probably the Nomad Mog Bonanza that was held for the rest of us in 2010, and it happened just once if I recall (not going through the wikki and news now).

Either way, it's a bit weird it's going to be completely shut down and do something else (or does it really just refer to Nomad one, or all of them... wording makes me think all of them (well, like I said earlier, it's the end of the world (as you know it))).

[Rezeak]

The North America and European Community Teams have been working diligently preparing for the Nomad Mog Bonanza, but unfortunately due to changing times and differing global laws, we will not be able to hold a Mog Bonanza for NA and EU regions moving forward.

While i know the laws a iffy on such stuff, i do know that mogbonaza is no more illegal than a ton of facebook games which are international.

I also beileve that if you didn't pay gil for the marbles it would take the gambling laws out of it (may have to only have 10 marbles per person rule tho)

Either way w/e

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

While i know the laws a iffy on such stuff, i do know that mogbonaza is no more illegal than a ton of facebook games which are international.

If I recall, Facebook puts restrictions on the accounts of members who are below the age 18. Square-Enix puts no such restrictions on minors and I doubt they're willing to start now.

Remember: legitimate FFXI players can be as young as 13.

[Zumi]

I remember last vanafest people logged in with their account to pick a number for the real life vanafest. Didn't brake any rules. If Blizzard can have a RMAH on Diablo 3 where people play to get random items to sell for real money, which is similar to gambling. Don't know why they can't have this contest.

[Sarick]

They can still do this. If they give the tickets away 10 random ticket by mog mail technically it's not gambling.

An issue is when people pay gil (gamble) for a lottery ticket.

Secondly, since there are people that would do RMT << they have to consider those items of $$$ value.

These two is what gets them in trouble.

[Chamaan]

They draw the numbers out of a fishbowl. They've said as much in previous mogbananas in the past. Or at the least ran a RNG in a room with Tanaka and other senior devs. The fact that they're using a system outside the game to make the drawing may be why this is considered a raffle instead of a purely game event. So, Ionno.

[Sarick]

The simple way around it is to have the Moogle that distributes tickets ask the player a simple question, such as: "What's the sum of 4 + 4?" - If they answer correctly, they are entered into a pool of players who also answered correctly, and are able to select their Marble numbers as per usual.

Legally speaking, it's no longer a lottery, it's now a nominal test of skill. (This would work in the UK and USA, unsure about other jurisdictions). Companies abuse this loophole every day.

This would be a nice loophole because answering 4+4 = 16 is super easy ;p