Lower The Minimum Level Required To Enter Abyssea from 30-1

[Rambus]

All of the people asking for the minimum to be raised higher are the ones ruining the game. Maybe if you took incentive to shout and create parties outside abyssea. Those that agree with you would, I don't know respond and try it out. So that older areas do get re-filled with people and it's no longer a problem. But the one's complaining just seem to be spoiled like the rest of us but still aren't satisfied that the "world is not perfect", it never will be. There were times were you were LFP for up to five hours before abyssea happened, even when all areas were filled with parties.

Crafting, the economy so on was all ruined because abyssea is level 30.

it being level 30 is also anti -new player.

it needs to be raised, i never understand why it was 30 to begin with.

Though so meny 90 now I do not know if raising it now would fix things.

It should never been 30 to begin with

[LeaderofAtlantis]

Reinstate the level difference modifier for EXP so that it exists even inside Abyssea. Apply it to chests as well.

Look, if you want easy mode to gain EXP, then why don't we just advocate for Square-Enix to give us an NPC that asks us 1 question: "I see you're leveling up a job and are Lv30. Would you like to be Lv70?" and then 2 options: "Yes, please!" and "No thanks!" and selecting the first will instantly raise you to Lv70. I mean why bother taking the time to learn the job through struggling through the whole "using it in battle" thing?

I know, I took 3 jobs to 75 through the old, tough ways. It did get boring at times and they needed to boost the experience, but if we just want to sit around opening chests to get 40 levels, then let's just add that NPC and save even more time. I mean why bother playing the game when you could just sit there and trade keys constantly? Maybe I just don't know fun. Could someone please explain how trading keys is fun while doing actual battle is not?

[rog]

Look, if you want easy mode to gain EXP, then why don't we just advocate for Square-Enix to give us an NPC that asks us 1 question: "I see you're leveling up a job and are Lv30. Would you like to be Lv70?" and then 2 options: "Yes, please!" and "No thanks!" and selecting the first will instantly raise you to Lv70.

Sounds good.

[Komori]

Reinstate the level difference modifier for EXP so that it exists even inside Abyssea. Apply it to chests as well.

Look, if you want easy mode to gain EXP, then why don't we just advocate for Square-Enix to give us an NPC that asks us 1 question: "I see you're leveling up a job and are Lv30. Would you like to be Lv70?" and then 2 options: "Yes, please!" and "No thanks!" and selecting the first will instantly raise you to Lv70. I mean why bother taking the time to learn the job through struggling through the whole "using it in battle" thing?

I know, I took 3 jobs to 75 through the old, tough ways. It did get boring at times and they needed to boost the experience, but if we just want to sit around opening chests to get 40 levels, then let's just add that NPC and save even more time. I mean why bother playing the game when you could just sit there and trade keys constantly? Maybe I just don't know fun. Could someone please explain how trading keys is fun while doing actual battle is not?

Frees up others to put their full effort into the battle and not have to worry about slapping an extra macro or using cruor for keys instead of brews or empyrean. The fact that nothing is hindering you from leveling outside of abyssea now. It's just "hard-working grinders" don't seem to want to either because of some unknown reason and instead want only themselves to be able to level inside abyssea. I grinded BLM and BLU to 75, and PUP to 63. But stop enforcing your way of thinking onto others. There is nothing stopping you from going out on your character and leveling the old way and helping new players, or are you as selfish as your calling people who want it to stay?

[Vinc]

I think the hardest thing for the individuals mandating that the level requirement be raised to understand is that experience parties are unimportant, trivial, and a minuscule portion of the game.

The level requirement is 30 because it is what the players want (see: Astral Burns). No one who has actually played the content of this game (read: not exping) cares about exping. The point of getting to 90 fast is not to ruin the game, not to make your job look bad - on the contrary, most people who participate in the act are likely better geared than you, far more successful at the job, and have a much better understanding of how to play it than someone who has spent months under the impression their generic party role is how the job should be utilized at endgame. The point is to experience a new job, discover a new style of play, find better gear, and experience interesting fights. I understand the impracticality of accepting this if all you've ever known is exping, but this change is for the better.

Get out of your shells, exping should not take months of lfping for 5 hours in whitegate to accomplish.

[Rambus]

The fact that nothing is hindering you from leveling outside of abyssea now.

Yeah there is, people do not want to. it is ether solo FoV or exp in abyssea.

I think the hardest thing for the individuals mandating that the level requirement be raised to understand is that experience parties are unimportant, trivial, and a minuscule portion of the game.

The level requirement is 30 because it is what the players want (see: Astral Burns). No one who has actually played the content of this game (read: not exping) cares about exping. The point of getting to 90 fast is not to ruin the game, not to make your job look bad - on the contrary, most people who participate in the act are likely better geared than you, far more successful at the job, and have a much better understanding of how to play it than someone who has spent months under the impression their generic party role is how the job should be utilized at endgame. The point is to experience a new job, discover a new style of play, find better gear, and experience interesting fights. I understand the impracticality of accepting this if all you've ever known is exping, but this change is for the better.

Get out of your shells, exping should not take months of lfping for 5 hours in whitegate to accomplish.

people are naturally drawn to take easy and fast route. That human nature does not mean its right. I read the new people forums and because abyssea is 30 new people find it hard to find gear and such because no one crafts them, no one crafts them because of abyssea. Like they said there if a new player finds abyssea and opens chests 30-90 they might think oh this is boring and quit. That is also reflected since there is no endgame, so there is really nothing to challenge new players ( lest anything that can be immediately seen)
AB parties where few people doing them, I would be asked time to time on my SMN but I never took them. I do not agree with that kind of exp

[rog]

Yeah there is, people do not want to. it is ether solo FoV or exp in abyssea.

Which means you are such a small minority, that you are not worth upsetting everyone else just to get what you want.

[Vivik]

Yeah there is, people do not want to. it is ether solo FoV or exp in abyssea.

Last I checked FoV was outside abyssea.

[Rambus]

Which means you are such a small minority, that you are not worth upsetting everyone else just to get what you want.

news to me, people make pts in old areas now beause of update?

Last I checked FoV was outside abyssea.

can you explain your point in more detail? I do not understand. The best way to replay is I was making reference in making exp pt in old area, not to solo FoV or pt in abyssea.

[rog]

nvm

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