HNMs and the future of FFXI

[Camiie]

Coming from the person who earlier stated they didn't like Aery Wars this post doesn't really make sense. Understand that it was sarcasm but it's funny that I'm the one being blamed for trolling.

It seemed like it'd be the ultimate thrill for you while setting old school HNM off in the PVP world away from the rest of us.

[Mittenz]

To the person who stated most WoW players dont make it past Lv. 10 and also that content shouldnt be made for a minority I do ask then why blizzard makes content up to the current cap shouldnt they just be making more and more stuff for 1-10 ? Personally I dont see that being a very successful model for them =P

Joking aside I loved HNM's and challenging fights but at this point SE seems to think squeezing every last bit of money from the player base without putting in any time or funds to development is the way to go so it probably wont be happening.

Looking at this road map I see something that could have been put in 1 update being spread across a year so unless they saved half the roadmap for vanafest I am not going to hope for anything. Rather be suprised and happy over disappointed and angry.

[Habu]

Then we'll call up SE, tell them to hire you, and leave you in sole charge of developing this new HNM content. Let me know when it's finished- I expect it on Tanaka's desk by friday, since you're clearly a content development expert.

Trolling/derail

Not subjective, a fact. Prior to this change, you could go to many of the HNMs and find them up and wandering around. Hard to compete against nobody now, isn't it?

If they're up and no one is killing them then why change the system, anyone can come kill them and get drops.

You're right, they're not equal. One group is much larger than the other, three guesses which. Even among those who make it past a certain level, not all of them get to or participate in endgame.

Comparing apples to oranges is what I was getting at, you're missing the point. New players =/= people wanting new content. This isn't hard.

I don't know one person who's made money off of legion. It isn't even a matter of who can beat it, it's a matter of who is interested in it. From the beginning, very few people even wanted a part of it for two three reasons:
1) it's large group content being added at a time where large groups are becoming increasingly rare
2) very few of the drops were considered attractive to many, and at least a few of the drops that are, are also available from another event.
3)If many people couldn't beat it, then that to me makes it challenging content. Of course, I'm sure you beat it trio blindfolded with your limbs bound together, since you apparently feel there are no challenging fights in the game.

I've sold 2 pair of Mustela Gloves for 5M a piece, one for 3M. Along with that I've sold a pair of Wrathwing Nails for 10M. There now you know someone profiting from Legion. Making a shout group for Legion isn't hard just have a few good core members and you can win. I can't help that the people I do events with are good and we can clear content easily. Punish me more for "not having a life". This is a circular argument meaning it wont end. I have my set of ideas and you have yours, this goes to anyone else who has ideas regarding this issue. This was merely an idea for devs that some minority in the game would look to see, if you don't like them don't do them IF they are released. End the pointless bickering right now, don't respond back about this and I wont either, it's as simple as that.

[Habu]

It seemed like it'd be the ultimate thrill for you while setting old school HNM off in the PVP world away from the rest of us.

I would enjoy the mass slaughter of people who outclaimed me on a HNM not going to lie lol

[Alhanelem]

Joking aside I loved HNM's and challenging fights but at this point SE seems to think squeezing every last bit of money from the player base without putting in any time or funds to development is the way to go so it probably wont be happening.

Don't get me wrong, i love challenging fights, just not the archaic "must play 24/7 to enjoy" system of content. You can make something that is challenging and thrilling without slapping arbitrary wait times on it.

Trolling/derail

Don't make comments on things you know nothing about and you won't get "trolled/derailed."

If they're up and no one is killing them then why change the system, anyone can come kill them and get drops.

But that wouldn't be thrilling! [/sarcasm]. You said you wanted the thrill of the claim. If there's no one to win a claim against, then the system's not doing it's job, is it?

[Habu]

Don't make comments on things you know nothing about and you won't get "trolled/derailed."

Saying that reskining an ALREADY EXSISTING MOB, and giving it drops that ALREADY HAVE BEEN THOUGHT OF, and putting it in zones that ALREADY EXSIST isn't hard to do should be obvious or are you just that dense?

But that wouldn't be thrilling! [/sarcasm]. You said you wanted the thrill of the claim. If there's no one to win a claim against, then the system's not doing it's job, is it?

How is what your saying making any sense? At first it was people hated getting out claimed by a bot, then it was no one is ever there. If no one was there to camp them then why waste 99KS when you could just go out and kill the mobs? You're not even making sense anymore.

[Alhanelem]

Saying that reskining an ALREADY EXSISTING MOB, and giving it drops that ALREADY HAVE BEEN THOUGHT OF, and putting it in zones that ALREADY EXSIST isn't hard to do should be obvious or are you just that dense?

like i said, if it's so easy, then show us how it's done. There's a lot more to making monsters than slapping a skin on a model. It's not just "slap a skin on a model and plop it in a zone."

How is what your saying making any sense? At first it was people hated getting out claimed by a bot, then it was no one is ever there. If no one was there to camp them then why waste 99KS when you could just go out and kill the mobs? You're not even making sense anymore.

That would mean im making about as much sense as you are. So maybe this is a good spot to end things.

[Habu]

Tried ending it earlier but you didn't want to drop it then.

[SNK]

This has to be one of the best troll threads I've seen in awhile.

[saevel]

This has to be one of the best troll threads I've seen in awhile.

Yeah surprised it hasn't made it to OF Nuked III yet. OP was obviously trying to rile people up and get street cred out of it, doesn't seem to of worked though.