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    Quote Originally Posted by SNK View Post
    No, there are a lot of people who feel the same way. You're just being too blind to see it.

    Hey now daniel, you were the one who said Dipper gets wrecked on anything over Decent Challange and I just proved you wrong. If you can't handle the issue that maybe you don't know enough about BST as you think you do, you might actually learn something or even play the job better. It's like you're looking to make an arguement or a point without actually researching the job outside of maybe wearing pearl or pink armor and thinking you still need a buff to your pet.
    Nope, 'fraid not.

    Daniel* I mean seriously, you always capitalise names.

    Wow, you're seriously deluded. First we balanced on level 75 NM's, now we're using EXP fodder. Your arguement is failing more and more as you continue to type such nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Who uses Nazuna at 99? It capped a while before then.

    Cheap pet for TEs in dynamis, caps at 96 with beast affinity merits. although I have seen gorefang instead on occaison...

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Nope, 'fraid not.

    Daniel* I mean seriously, you always capitalise names.

    Wow, you're seriously deluded. First we balanced on level 75 NM's, now we're using EXP fodder. Your arguement is failing more and more as you continue to type such nonsense.
    All I read was you have trouble with Dipper dying on DC mobs... think the problem is less with Dipper and more with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Cheap pet for TEs in dynamis, caps at 96 with beast affinity merits. although I have seen gorefang instead on occaison...



    All I read was you have trouble with Dipper dying on DC mobs... think the problem is less with Dipper and more with you.
    Nazuna is capped at level 84. With 5/5 Beast Affinity merits nazuna can spawn at level 94. If you have monster gloves +2 augmented, then you can just barely get a level 99 Nazuna with them and 5/5 merits.

    I think its a waste to put 5/5 merits into BA just for Nazuna though, but to each their own.
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    Read the cap level wrong, shouldn't do that while sick :/

    And yes it probably is a waste but I see way too many of the damn sheep running around and that's the only way I remember it being half useful... for one instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Nope, 'fraid not.
    I'm afraid so Daniel. You've tried to make an arguement that dipper can't handle anything over DC and you got shot down and the only excuse you can give is exp mobs? Last I checked those mobs were VT to IT. What excatly were you referring to? Event mobs, VW or something else we all know is equally high level and isn't soloable by any jobs?


    Wow, you're seriously deluded. First we balanced on level 75 NM's, now we're using EXP fodder. Your arguement is failing more and more as you continue to type such nonsense.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Seeing as there is a cap, not quite true and seeing as if you take on anything above decent and Yuly gets thrashed it's again not true.
    Your words not mine Daniel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Who uses Nazuna at 99? It capped a while before then.
    It's good for Dynamis TEs, and Walk of Echos where you have to zone out everytime you do a run. If you're rich or crazy enough to spam that pet on a 7 to 11 minute fight then by all means do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
    Nazuna is capped at level 84. With 5/5 Beast Affinity merits nazuna can spawn at level 94. If you have monster gloves +2 augmented, then you can just barely get a level 99 Nazuna with them and 5/5 merits.
    Seems some people here Daniel have a better grasp on this job then you do. If you want to keep with the personal insults by all means continue or just maybe you could just realize you're plugging your foot into your mouth everytime you try and discredit what I'm saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    All I read was you have trouble with Dipper dying on DC mobs... think the problem is less with Dipper and more with you.
    I was trying to be polite about this Daniel but it seems Neisan decided to make the point for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNK View Post
    I'm afraid so Daniel. You've tried to make an arguement that dipper can't handle anything over DC and you got shot down and the only excuse you can give is exp mobs? Last I checked those mobs were VT to IT. What excatly were you referring to? Event mobs, VW or something else we all know is equally high level and isn't soloable by any jobs?

    Your words not mine Daniel.

    It's good for Dynamis TEs, and Walk of Echos where you have to zone out everytime you do a run. If you're rich or crazy enough to spam that pet on a 7 to 11 minute fight then by all means do so.

    Seems some people here Daniel have a better grasp on this job then you do. If you want to keep with the personal insults by all means continue or just maybe you could just realize you're plugging your foot into your mouth everytime you try and discredit what I'm saying.

    I was trying to be polite about this Daniel but it seems Neisan decided to make the point for me.
    Maybe I should be clear, I don't class wasting food on EXP mobs as a good thing. Yes they can fight IT if they want, no it's not easy. I can take on an IT in Gusgen while my pet takes another, it's still at the cost of pet food. You're still balancing a pet on weak content (Abyssea and such) including enemies that even at IT are not that hard (EXP fodder.) which guess what you could probably do with the weak sheep now, Dipper still gets hit like a bitch by the IT, unless you're wielding the Evasion axes.

    Most if not all jobs at 99 can do that now.

    Wow, people are hard pushed for gil to afford even the slug, really!? It's almost as cheap as the weak sheep to make.

    Apparently not enough to know of the cap on the sheep. Reading Wiki != Knowing the job.
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    Last edited by Daniel_Hatcher; 05-29-2012 at 08:09 AM.

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    I don't think Yuly needs much more of anything, let alone evasion. I just want the recipe adjusted (less or no lesser chigoes please) or want more reliable sources of lesser chigoes added (daily reward system doesn't count) to make up for the loss of th3. It's ridiculous that people moaned about smn afk killing chigoes for geodes and the devs responded to it when I can't even get a gm to respond to my complaints of players pos hacking the harvesting points that goes on nearly 24/7 in Grauberg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Maybe I should be clear, I don't class wasting food on EXP mobs as a good thing. Yes they can fight IT if they want, no it's not easy.
    What the heck gear are you using? Those mobs arn't hard at all to kill. I didn't even use food killing those things.

    I can take on an IT in Gusgen while my pet takes another, it's still at the cost of pet food. You're still balancing a pet on weak content (Abyssea and such) including enemies that even at IT are not that hard (EXP fodder.) which guess what you could probably do with the weak sheep now, Dipper still gets hit like a bitch by the IT, unless you're wielding the Evasion axes.
    You must be using a different DipperYuly then me or you don't have a pair of augmented Monster Gloves +2 because I don't have any issues killing those mobs whatsoever. Whatever the case is you might want to look back at excatly what you might be doing different from me or anyone else.



    Wow, people are hard pushed for gil to afford even the slug, really!? It's almost as cheap as the weak sheep to make.
    I'm not really hard pushed to make money. In fact I make a lot of it on BST all the time, I'm just not foolish enough to throw money away when the results can be done for a lower cost and still yield the same results.

    Most if not all jobs at 99 can do that now.
    I agree with this to an extent. Some jobs have a hard time soloing vs other jobs which can easily kill mobs without so much as breaking a sweat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNK View Post
    I'm sorry but I'm afraid you're not fully correct with this assumption. There are mobs that con VT to IT that dipper has no problems dealing with whatsoever. All the newer IT mobs in Gustav Tunnel, The Boyada Tree and other zones outside of Abyessa I have no issues soloing with Dipper. If anything with capped beast affinity/beast healer merits along with Relic +2 legs/feet inculding Augments it's really hard to kill the damn pet.
    Hmmm... So this was mentioned for no reason then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher View Post
    Hmmm... So this was mentioned for no reason then?
    Being selective in your replys doesn't help your case or point of view in this arguement/discussion. If you desire to take it out of context then by all means do so but please don't make it a point to say Dipper can't handle anything over Decent Challange and then sit there & backpedal on your own words when other folks in this thread are telling you different.

    You keep looking for holes in my posts when your own are starting to bleed out all over this thread in some attempt to prove me wrong about Dipper not need anymore buffs then it already has.
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