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    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krashport View Post
    Juilan, I'm sorry but you're defending a person that I feel wants a handout
    He was trying to make a point, similar to a point I tried to make almost a year ago. Lack of comprehension pervaded there, too.

    At any rate...

    and can't play an RPG effectivly to help themselves
    How is one expected to "help themselves" when "helping themselves" requires the intervention of a high-level player?

    You want a level ~20 to go skill alchemy. Getting the skill (and the ingredients for the meds in question) isn't realistic until level ~40 (not to mention the abominable timesink of skilling a craft in and of itself). Your only other suggestions boil down to "get assistance from someone else's high-level character" in one way or another.

    Call that what you will, but "helping oneself" it is not. At best, it's "make yourself useful to someone else."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    He was trying to make a point, similar to a point I tried to make almost a year ago. Lack of comprehension pervaded there, too.

    At any rate...



    How is one expected to "help themselves" when "helping themselves" requires the intervention of a high-level player?

    You want a level ~20 to go skill alchemy. Getting the skill (and the ingredients for the meds in question) isn't realistic until level ~40 (not to mention the abominable timesink of skilling a craft in and of itself). Your only other suggestions boil down to "get assistance from someone else's high-level character" in one way or another.

    Call that what you will, but "helping oneself" it is not. At best, it's "make yourself useful to someone else."
    I chose to ignore that guy because he feels the need to make me look like a moocher and like that makes my point Invalid. The fact of the matter is they told me to go buy that stuff and i pointed out that 30k a stack at low levels? yeah right not happening. I have never asked for anything for free since I started.

    Yeah you can ask for high level help but that's my complaint. I don't want to have to ask someone who is max level for help. I would like to be able to handle the mission with people my level or by myself.
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    Player Shadowsong's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iakothm View Post
    ... they told me to go buy that stuff and i pointed out that 30k a stack at low levels? yeah right not happening. I have never asked for anything for free since I started.

    Yeah you can ask for high level help but that's my complaint. I don't want to have to ask someone who is max level for help. I would like to be able to handle the mission with people my level or by myself.
    Why is 30k gil so hard to obtain!? Farm Wild Onions, Silk Thread, or Beehive Chips, how lazy cab you POSSIBLY be!? Ive never seen as lazy people as Im seeing post here. Do the work, get the items you need, and shut up about it. No one cares about how hard it is for you to do something that should take 20 minutes. You think its unfair? No one cares about that either.
    Just quit now, you sound like you are going to be a terrible high level.

    To the person who said you shouldnt have to use the auction house to complete missions. Oh Im sorry, is this your game now? Do what you have to do, what good does whining about it do?
    Im not even going to comment on how retarded bring "lore" into ANY conversation is. Grow up
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    Last edited by Shadowsong; 05-12-2012 at 01:50 PM.

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    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsong View Post
    Why is 30k gil so hard to obtain!?
    Why should lining someone else's pockets be a requirement?

    Alternatively, why shouldn't he (hypothetically) buy gil from an RMT if the game is so gil-centric?

    No one cares about how hard it is for you to do something that should take 20 minutes. You think its unfair? No one cares about that either.
    You apparently care enough to post.

    Just quit now, you sound like you are going to be a terrible high level.
    With charming examples of the playerbase like you offering sage advice to new players like "Bend over like I did," it's no wonder the game is foundering.

    FFXI: come for the grind, stay for the hazing!
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    Player Shadowsong's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo View Post
    Why should lining someone else's pockets be a requirement
    Because that's how the game works.

    Circumspection says Hi! Your lack of game knowledge makes baby jesus cry.
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsong View Post
    Circumspection says Hi!
    Said it already, a lot of them are in locations that require you to drop invis to advance, making it useless.
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    Player Ziyyigo-Tipyigo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsong View Post
    Because that's how the game works.
    Except that your little chicken-and-egg problem only goes back to '02.
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