I was merely comparing the damage output that SMN can do compared to other jobs of similar "hybrid" status as well as other decent and better DDs. If you compare them, the damage is so distant from SMN and the others that it's quite laughable really... Yes in a solo situation is where SMN shines the most, but in party based events SMN is rarely looked to for it's damage(maybe for it's near-hateless damage, but that's about it). so in those 20 seconds think of what any DD can do with someone who knows what they're doing with that job. You'll find that SMN will do a fraction of what a decent DD is capable of. Yes I know SMN is not a DD only class, but unless they really fix the buffs SMN can do to fortify it as a DD/support class it's quite underwhelming :<