Back in the good ole days

[Ravenmore]

Every one that thinks they are hardcore or the game was ever hard because they played in the good old days were never hardcore. You want hardcore go play EVE. That game will chew you up and spit you out after telling you your a dirty girl. It makes EQ cry for its mama.

[wildsprite]

to the OP, if that is how you and several others want to play, you know you don't have to do LB6+ or use the books or abyssea, just make a LS together and go knock yourselves out

[Luvbunny]

to the OP, if that is how you and several others want to play, you know you don't have to do LB6+ or use the books or abyssea, just make a LS together and go knock yourselves out

LOL he does not even have to go that far. All he needs to do is avoid abyssea altogether and just level up using standard old school party via GoV. There are plenty of camp that let you level up to 99. His main problem is finding 5 other people. Yeah I know, as much as people wish the good old days, in reality, no one is that crazy to actually want to relive this. Good luck for him to find those groups, at least he can get 40-60k per hour now instead of the usual 12k-18k per hour merit camp party.

[Llana_Virren]

Every one that thinks they are hardcore or the game was ever hard because they played in the good old days were never hardcore. You want hardcore go play EVE. That game will chew you up and spit you out after telling you your a dirty girl. It makes EQ cry for its mama.

I don't know about "everyone." My only issue is that we have very little "in depth, complex -content-" that one has come to expect from a game carrying the Final Fantasy title. RotZ and CoP were incredibly well thought out, and many of the side quests added with those expansions were very good, as well. ToAU and WotG were a steady decline, and the 3+3 "mini expansions" are craptacular.

If you think that the last 2 expansion packs have added ANY sort of major, game-making content to FFXI, then you live under a very small, damp rock. A "hardcore" rock if that better suits your fancy. ^___^

[Ravenmore]

Really you found CoP and RoTZ complex, you have never played another MMO have you. No the game has never been hardcore or complex because of guess what having to work with in the limits of the PS2. What you are also remembering is though the lens of having so long in between missons that you fail to see how corny the story line really is. CoP while having the best last CS is filled with crap and only reason to finish it was all the gear options getting to sea open up. Then RoTz could be finish in two days that isn't complex its freaking easy. That not even needing a full party for all the fights.

[wildsprite]

lots of good memories in the old system, but face it, the old grind was tedious and annoying, I agree with the majority of the people who responded, going back to the old way is insane and nothing prevents you from doing things the old way except perhaps for finding others who are willing to do it with you

[Llana_Virren]

Then RoTz could be finish in two days that isn't complex its freaking easy. That not even needing a full party for all the fights.

2004 called, and it said that you need to remember what the level caps were and how less people understood game mechanics. At the time, RotZ and CoP were pretty hard, and although the storyline might not have been as complex as your favorite Twilight novel, there was ten-fold the content you'll see in any other expansions to this game.

But beating RotZ with half a party? No, not when it was released.

[Rohelius]

Oh my god with awesome games like Guild Wars 2 coming out and you want to go back to 2002 in FFXI!?

Guild Wars 1 aint even that old... just play Mario 3 if you want old school.

[Llana_Virren]

[J]ust play Mario 3 if you want old school.

I like how you still used a sequel in your example of "old school" lol....

[Ravenmore]

Yeah for like a week till the strats made it out. Stop thinking it was ever hard only people that were lacking reading skills ever found the game hard. The hardest part has and will always be finding 5 to 17 people that have a funtioning brain. WoW has more complex game play then FFXI could ever dream of having. You know what the most complex thing you have in FFXI use X item at Y% thats the way 90% of people beat Airship before the nerfs and before the level cap lifting the others tank and spank it. Really have you even played anyother MMOs.