Back in the good ole days

[Arbole]

Hmm. People would still complain on the forums that the "Airship" fight is too hard and needs to be adjusted. They'd still complain about level capped BCNMs. They'd still complain about HNM. They'd still complain about greedy sky/sea shells gearing the leaders. People would still complain that AV is too tough.

[Camiie]

because old days was only camping kings?

Nah, but the other stuff was a bunch of waiting too. You never had to wait for someone killing Kirin or JOL? You never had to wait because your scheduled Dynamis zone was jacked? You never had to wait behind someone taking their sweet, sweet time in Limbus? You never had to wait in line at some battlefield entrance? You're luckier than I am then. Bad game design forced me to wait all the time back then.

At least these days the waits are usually much shorter and you can often cooperate with fellow campers. You sure as heck couldn't do that back in the day. Everything was a limited resource to be fought over, and everything took so long to pop or farm you didn't want to have any more time wasted. Your only friends were in your own LS or those who didn't do the same events as you. Otherwise it was war. You didn't talk to or have dealings with those other groups. If you didn't have them /blisted you'd get screwed over. Yeah, man, good times! It's funny to find out later that many of those people you thought were the scum of the earth weren't really so bad. You missed out on being good friends with some good people because the wonderful content of ye goode olde days set you against each other like starving dogs. Woo boy yeah that's sure building a friendly community there isn't it?

[Luvbunny]

Agree, the new game style encourage more co-operation with random strangers since everything is in abundance, and working together toward the same goal cuts down the "waiting game". Everything is faster, easier, and more fun by working together now. Glad they at least see this part and revamp the game and get rid of the old days, let's hope they see the light and make tweaks to voidwatch, neo nyzul and legion and promote working together with random strangers.

[Nala]

Black Mage for the longest time was optimal and necessary for EXP parties.

OP wanted a pre WoTG aka ToAU server, meaning colibri onry = FU BLM

As for the rest of your post, sucks you had sucky Linkshells that required hours like a day job.

As far as HNM's concerned didnt matter your shell didnt have a choice otherwise you'd miss hq spawns, and i never was in one of those sucky shells, but i knew of enough of them where leader "quit" after finishing their relic, or would run off with the bank was pretty common on fairy in any case.

I do personally miss the way the game used to be in terms of community but i personally lack that sense due to my old friends moving on more then anything, though lack of content that forces 18 man content shells also helped with that even if it was an artificial cock block style of cohesion (looking at you relics/mythics, D.ring ect.)

[Ravencrest]

A person can never recapture the past, which is all this desire is about. Those pictures in your head about a glorious golden era, well that's all they are. The time you want to return to was just as grindy, just as tedious and certainly as easy as anything you're doing now. It's like when your grandparents tell you how your culture today sucks, and back in their day it was just so much better. Same thing at work in your head, you are recalling more than just the stuff you think you are, and it's not your fault we all do it.

You recall the funny one-liners from that one guy who doesn't play now, the conversations had before the event, the random chaos that happened that one time that lead to a LS inside joke, the drama with that other guy in that rival LS who doesn't play anymore, and when it was all new to you. That's what you really want, unless you just have fond memories of doing the digital version of watching paint dry.

[Auriga]

-Hears the echo of statements like "back in my day we walked 900 miles to go to school" an leaves the area immediately-

[Mahoro]

Agree, the new game style encourage more co-operation with random strangers since everything is in abundance, and working together toward the same goal cuts down the "waiting game". Everything is faster, easier, and more fun by working together now. Glad they at least see this part and revamp the game and get rid of the old days, let's hope they see the light and make tweaks to voidwatch, neo nyzul and legion and promote working together with random strangers.

They already have. It's called "shouting for hours in Port Jeuno and waiting for random strangers to gather who end up not having VW ports or temp items or know how to handle a lamp order in Nyzul, and then wiping to that tough mob anyway". Random strangers GO!

Don't make the mistake of thinking cooperation with random strangers means everything is magically faster and easier. No accountability or continuity can be a lonely thing. Just ask the people who have to spend most of their evenings /sh in PJ to get anything done.

[Mahoro]

right because having a large linkshell make a relic for you and then stealing the bank, getting your close in game friends all the gear first under the old big linkshell system,

yadda yadda yadda

This is like a paint-by-numbers of every cliche in the book, which assumes that because of that one story that one guy heard, every large LS is inherently corrupt, all banks are just waiting to be run off with, and all gear instantly goes to those who fellate LS leaders. It's always the instant go-to argument; "just add water". It also conveniently shifts the blame away from the person who willingly submitted themselves to shitty LS's with shitty rules or untrustworthy people. Sometimes I wish everyone had to take a course in statistics or learned how not to make crass generalizations to prove their arguments.

[Alhanelem]

Yes, let's return to the days where you often spent hours puttering around looking for a party so you could get more than 0 EXP per hour. Let's return to the days where the currently unpopular jobs were even less popular (and at the time, deservedly so).

SE isn't going to make a (live) server that all of 10 people will want to play on. And do you have any idea how much of a nightmare it is to maintain multiple versions of the same game?

Not to mention how fast you'd get bored because there wouldn't be any new content.

[Midorikaze]

Not to be off-topic, but speaking of content: does anybody do MMM anymore?

Honestly, I kind of miss it ^^