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    I thought they contemplated doing VW to earn cruor. You can earn a lot just by doing the fights. EDIT
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    Last edited by Mahoro; 04-20-2012 at 01:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    The cruor you get from doing VW is barely enough to cover the cruor you spent for your cells, so you almost break even but barely. After repeat VW you start loosing cruor more than making more.
    Incorrect. Assuming you only trade rubicund cells and aren't wasting cruor on cobalt cells too. And even if you do, for some of the higher tier fights you will still walk away with more cruor than the fight cost you in cells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    i mentioned doing VW for curor

    and yea u need to do 100 VWs worth cruor to make a 2mil atmacite so if ya think thats a viable option then ok and thats considering your buying the cells of the AH

    either way like i said the only viable way to get multiple amtacites is gaining curor in abyssea which is a waste of time because ur better acully doing VW for the drops on the other hand if ya use VW curor for it you'll be done w/ VW before ya done w/ the atmacites which would then be useless cause you have no reason to do VW catch 22
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    The cruor you get from doing VW is barely enough to cover the cruor you spent for your cells, so you almost break even but barely. After repeat VW you start loosing cruor more than making more. And if you upgrade atmacite then you loose even more in greater numbers. So yeah, they flatly lie to us by saying that. Everything they do is purely on the base of adding artificial grind and barriers so we got strung along for a good year or so before they do their usual minimal adjustment here and there. It has been close to a year now since the introduction of voidwatch, very little has changed and no ticketing system ever going to come this way. By the time they introduce this, everyone who remotely interested already moving on to the new thing or quit from nerd rage.
    You obviously do not comprehend how useless the "ticket" system will be as they have described it.

    Why do I have to keep saying this?
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    and don't forget people who spent 1M CRUOR on an atmacite who was made useless next update


    Quote Originally Posted by Tamoa View Post
    No opinion on the subject really, but it's spelled CRUOR - C R U O R - and NOT CUROR.


    Yes, I do find it amazingly annoying that so many people consistantly misspell CRUOR. Pet peeve etc.
    REQUOTED BOLDED SUPERSIZED since people were still mispelling it after
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    point is who the heck goes to do vw just for the cruor, the drop rate on these items are so small you'd probably only go to get a drop yourself, which means you're using cells, which means you're cruor return is minimal making it an unrealistic way to fund atmacites even though they claimed aby farming would not be necessary to fund vw based activities.
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    Player Tamoa's Avatar
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    Idk if I'd call getting 7380 cruor from Bishani just now - a low tier fight taking around 5 minutes - a minimal gain? That's after cruor for rubicund cells have been subtracted obviously. If you spam a lot of Qilin for example, wanting heavy metal pouches and maybe a Coruscanti, you earn roughly 10k cruor per fight, and if your group is good, each fight only takes a few minutes. I rarely set foot in Abyssea these days and don't have too much trouble upgrading atmacites - both DD and mage ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    Or you could spend that 65 mil on buying heavy metal plate/dross.
    If you're not fighting VW NM with those upgraded weapons then what are you upgrading them for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    Look, they are not gonna adjust this. It's a cheap easy way for them to ensure "grinding and time sink" on the abyssea content and still make it relevant for players to keep doing abyssea cruor party. I have a feeling someone gotten a very harsh lecture for making Abyssea Atma so easily obtainable and bestow player amazing bonuses for so little cruors. I would not be surprised if the whole team got a very stern lecture on how much a failure the abyssea battle system is for letting players having too much fun and imbued with god mode. So now we have to deal with all these lack luster and half baked contents and everything become a monster of a grind. Just look at the last few magian trials for empy weapon and you get the idea, the fact that your reward is 1 more stats adjustment is beyond laughable.
    Honestly you cancruor burn faster doing VW then you can doing cruor Burns in Abyssea.
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    That's one bad cruor burn...
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