Temporary Suspension of the Services Due to an Earthquake

[Zeitzone]

@Zyeriis
At first the post schould wake up ppl to stop complaining about SE, thats what sucessed.
Noone is compalining about SE anymore.

Second ist that im labeling, but if you cant put ppl into groups, how can you complain? You cant!
You need to create a group, a label to even be able to say that they are good or bad.
If you cant name a group how will you say those are good or bad?
So if you say "a Ghost is good" then you are labeling all ghosts to be good.
Then a guy comes hey, dont label all ghost to be good. Wtf?
So how can i then say Ghosts are good without to label them?
Show me a way how to say Ghosts are good without to put ghosts into a group.
You cant.
If you want to complain about something you need to group it, becouse if i say "all bad ppl are bad" it kinda sounds redicioleus and still it is labeling.
"The policemans eat donuts" is labeling too. So how can i now say that the policemans eat donuts without to label/name/group them what they are?

[Selzak]

@Zyeriis
At first the post schould wake up ppl to stop complaining about SE, thats what sucessed.
Noone is compalining about SE anymore.

Second ist that im labeling, but if you cant put ppl into groups, how can you complain? You cant!
You need to create a group, a label to even be able to say that they are good or bad.
If you cant name a group how will you say those are good or bad?
So if you say "a Ghost is good" then you are labeling all ghosts to be good.
Then a guy comes hey, dont label all ghost to be good. Wtf?
So how can i then say Ghosts are good without to label them?
Show me a way how to say Ghosts are good without to put ghosts into a group.
You cant.
If you want to complain about something you need to group it, becouse if i say "all bad ppl are bad" it kinda sounds redicioleus and still it is labeling.
"The policemans eat donuts" is labeling too. So how can i now say that the policemans eat donuts without to label/name/group them what they are?

...Are you seriously saying that you don't understand how it might be possible to judge people individually and not as a group? If there is some kind of language barrier that makes this concept hard for you to understand then that is genuinely disconcerting.

How about: "This ghost is good."
Oh, and: "This poster is being inconsiderate."
Or you could say: "These posters[list of posters] are being inconsiderate."

Their nationality, or any group that they're a part of, should only be mentioned if it is relevant to what you're saying about them. There are people here (much less than 50%) who are more concerned with the game than the situation in Japan, but that's only because you're looking at a small group of people (many of whom live in this game) who may be young, immature, and/or disconnected from reality.

Here's some logic for you:
On a FFXI forum, you will see an abnormal amount of people voicing their opinions about FFXI. People who aren't concerned about the game being down (still the vast majority on this forum) will be less likely to post about it here and make their opinions heard in the first place.

[Zeitzone]

Your outlook on this has suddenly given me a better understanding of how the Holocaust happened. German people just like to lump people together into one sensationalized scapegoat. /irony

Oh IC, you have the right to label, but me not, if that isnt typical...hmmm American? All native americans are bad, all black ppl are bad,all vietnamese are bad, all muslime are bad... isnt that the main way America walks since they exist, to label and kill?

Well now i undestand why happened that the american nation killed nearly all native americans, why you put black ppl in slavery, why U.S.A. attacked and killed multyple vietnamese, why U.S.A.go down to muslime and try to kill them for oil.

Germany maybe did one mistake in hystory, America doing mistakes since they exist.

But for a better point of view, im just half german, other half is oposite site from Holocoust, i even grew up in a country that was once conquered by german force and where the Partisans fought for them right of freedom(yes partisan ist too labeling, omgim so horrible)
i saw both sites of the coint. i learned to hate germans and then to understand them, and i learned that its important to label everything inlife. Not labeling is just for layz ppl who are scared to set a point.
i Label my work, i label my friends, i label my own existence.

[Elysianne]

My hopes and prayers indeed go out to everyone affected by this disaster. This will affect all of our lives in one way or another.

It does make me chuckle however, to see everyone getting along so swimmingly!

[Zeitzone]

And now plz lets end this finaly becouse it becomes a useless flaming post only worth to be deleted.
Thats why i will not answer on any of following flaming posts

[breau]

Oh IC, you have the right to label, but me not, if that isnt typical...hmmm American? All native americans are bad, all black ppl are bad,all vietnamese are bad, all muslime are bad... isnt that the main way America walks since they exist, to label and kill?

Well now i undestand why happened that the american nation killed nearly all native americans, why you put black ppl in slavery, why U.S.A. attacked and killed multyple vietnamese, why U.S.A.go down to muslime and try to kill them for oil.

Germany maybe did one mistake in hystory, America doing mistakes since they exist.

But for a better point of view, im just half german, other half is oposite site from Holocoust, i even grew up in a country that was once conquered by german force and where the Partisans fought for them right of freedom(yes partisan ist too labeling, omgim so horrible)
i saw both sites of the coint. i learned to hate germans and then to understand them, and i learned that its important to label everything inlife. Not labeling is just for layz ppl who are scared to set a point.
i Label my work, i label my friends, i label my own existence.

germany made one mistake? deutschland hat einen fehler gemacht?
how do you count? - wie zählst denn du?
what about all the christianizing battles before? was ist mit den kreuzzügen?
what about our part on killing natural american´s? was ist mit unserer beteiligung and der verfolgung der amerikanischen ureinwohner?
how about looking at now, at what is coming , at what we can do in a better way instead of: you done this wrong, you done that bad? let´s work together for a better world for our children. hugs all people of good will
breau, alexander/bastok

[Selzak]

Your outlook on this has suddenly given me a better understanding of how the Holocaust happened. German people just like to lump people together into one sensationalized scapegoat. /irony

Oh IC, you have the right to label, but me not, if that isnt typical...hmmm American? All native americans are bad, all black ppl are bad,all vietnamese are bad, all muslime are bad... isnt that the main way America walks since they exist, to label and kill?

First of all, that was the joke. Try translating the word irony.

Secondly, this isn't even funny anymore because you aren't just making a logical mistake like I first assumed (and tried to explain), but you are a genuinely ignorant individual who is sincerely content to generalize people by their race, nationality, profession, etc. with baseless stereotypes.


e. Also, the American people have donated about $64,000,000 to Japan so far. The U.S. government has offered $35,000,000 not including tons of military aid. Although, judging by your attitude, I seriously doubt that your intentions when coming here were to drop by and figure out how much we care as you claimed. You obviously have many angry, unfounded opinions about America that you felt like posting about.

[Jwoods]

How about we just not worry about the whole labeling thing? I think the thread is about server suspension due to this huge catastrophic event that killed 5300 + HUMAN BEINGS and left many,mnay others in terrible discomfort... Remind yourself of this every day when you awaken compared to your own life and all this about labeling becomes minute and needless here... I think showing some compassion and offering aid is all this thread needs, right? I mean really? Really?

[Zyeriis]

First of all, that was the joke. Try translating the word irony.

Secondly, this isn't even funny anymore because you aren't just making a logical mistake like I first assumed (and tried to explain), but you are a genuinely ignorant individual who is sincerely content to generalize people by their race, nationality, profession, etc. with baseless stereotypes.


e. Also, the American people have donated about $64,000,000 to Japan so far. The U.S. government has offered $35,000,000 not including tons of military aid.

Outrage at being proven wrong is all that is happening now. (Note: Despite quoting Selzak, this post is a response to Zeitzone) When I said "Labelist" it was a deliberate poke at being ironic, to show the reaction one has when they are labeled something (even if that label is being called one who labels others or groups them with other individuals).

Zeitzone, you are right to be happy that the German forums have less posters, otherwise immature and insensitive and offensive German individuals would be doing the exact same thing as the immature and insensitive and offensive "American" individuals.

[Zyeriis]

Other than my previous post:

I'll continue on the Labelist subject. Actions are either good or bad (not necessarily the people who do them, there is good and bad to everyone, labeling some one bad or good over a single action is what it is to be a labelist) but when you go about labeling one person into a group that other people belong to (i.e. "Americans") you are proving that all you personally know is hate. You are throwing all the negativity of what single (or perhaps a few) individuals upon a single word, just to displace your anger on a single word rather than a single person. That is what stereotyping is, in essence. Concentrating your disgust upon a single label, disregarding that it is hardly proven that those words are common amongst the actual group of people you are associating that insensitive and offensive person with. We have every right to get angry, when you are comparing and intertwining us with something, we also, despise.

Those words don't even fully define that individual person let alone every person that has some minute detail in common with them. Do you like a particular sport? Let's say soccer for the sake of the example. What if that insensitive person also likes soccer? Are both of you as soccer fans, assholes by default because of one person's alarming words? I think not.