Leeching in video games. Good or bad?

[Alhanelem]

You are Never. Nerver. Are Limited by Tp Even if you not actively Meele.

You're off your rocker. Show me how you can cure as often as your recast can come up without actively meleeing, without at least some regain. Reverse flourish by itself won't be enough. I won't disagree that it's not exceptionally hard to cap gear haste, but it is unacceptable to assume that every DNC will have it (and you said "even if you don't actively melee," anyway). it takes some time to get that gear however, particularly if you don't have an active LS or a few friends that are hardcore players. There is of course a difference between someone who's working toward that and someone who isn't, but you can't tell that just by looking at somebody. You don't know how long they've been playing a job.

[Arcon]

Now to the good thing about leeching: "Fast EXP which leaves more time to spend on learning to actually play the job, which you don't in any other kind of EXP situation".

Fixed that for you.

I on one hand can aussure you that every Dnc in their right mind have 25.6% Haste in Gear around 48% Dual Weild and whatever Store TP they can get their Hands on.

Haste caps at 25%.

[Alhanelem]

Haste caps at 25%.

Yes, but most gear does not give exactly the stated amount of haste. Most gear actually gives less than the stated amount (I think there's one or two pieces of gear that actually give more) Because of this, you need slightly more than 25% in "advertised" haste to get 25% real actual haste.

[Kimble]

You need 26% haste in gear to truly reach 25% haste. Its just math. Unless you have one piece giving you 25%.

[Arcon]

Yes, but most gear does not give exactly the stated amount of haste. Most gear actually gives less than the stated amount (I think there's one or two pieces of gear that actually give more) Because of this, you need slightly more than 25% in "advertised" haste to get 25% real actual haste.

That doesn't make his statement any less senseless, since you can't get "25.6%" Haste from gear. Either he means true Haste cap, which is 25%, or advertised gear Haste cap, which is (currently) 26%.

You need 26% haste in gear to truly reach 25% haste. Its just math. Unless you have one piece giving you 25%.

That makes no sense. There's some gear that actually gives more Haste than what it says. If SE releases more of that, you could actually reach the cap with just 24%. And if you had one single piece with that much haste, why would it give you exactly the advertised amount? It's not always rounding errors, sometimes they just pick really stupid values. Same on lots of PDT gear.

[Kimble]

afaik, there is very few gear that gives more.[according to Krischy's testing, only Rune Chopper gave more haste value then what was shown, 94/1024 rather than 90/1024] Unless someone went and tasted every piece of gear, it would be hard to tell which pieces gives more as trying to figure out the difference between 1% and 1.07% would be extremely hard, which is why its generally safer to go with face value.

My comment about one piece of gear giving 25% haste true value was incorrect so I do apologize for that.

IE: 5% haste = 50/1024 which is 4.88%.

[Earwig]

I've started many a fight in abyssea alliances because the party leader was level 45, and was getting payed by level 30ish people to let them leech from my work. I don't have a problem with free exp, but I do have a problem with slowing everyone else down.
Paying to leech in a FC party is the way to do it!

[scaevola]

3 i'm a ps2 us launch veteran. With having my first year have ultra limited game play (2-4 hours a day).

THAT's what you call limited playtime?

[Alhanelem]

That doesn't make his statement any less senseless, since you can't get "25.6%" Haste from gear. Either he means true Haste cap, which is 25%, or advertised gear Haste cap, which is (currently) 26%.

The cap is 25%, not 26%. You need 26% because most gear gives less haste than advertised.

I've started many a fight in abyssea alliances because the party leader was level 45, and was getting payed by level 30ish people to let them leech from my work. I don't have a problem with free exp, but I do have a problem with slowing everyone else down.
Paying to leech in a FC party is the way to do it!

1) paid, not payed

2)You often have 1 low level person to open boxes. This person is helping you, not slowing you down, because it would slow you down if the attackers in your party took time to open the boxes.

[Glamdring]

leeching=bad, thankfully I can kick the leech if I'm the leader, or go to a pt where people are contributing if I'm not...

For that matter I can solo most decent content now, so who needs a pt unless I WANT company