New enhancing spell for RDM to promote party support.

[cidbahamut]

Blah! Blah! Melee nonsense in an Enhancing thread. Blah! Blah!

Like I said, unless we can keep on topic SE will always ignore RDM, so Thanks!

Just start reporting the posts for being off topic.

[saevel]

Slippery slope more please. Please keep bringing up a guess I made a couple of months ago, and the fake Bukhis was actually pretty close to a T3 VWNM (once again, wouldn't melee, but your statement that 'Blu does just as bad' is wholly incorrect).

Rdm isn't even the same league as Nin and Dnc, and I highly doubt Thf as bad as it is, but by a smaller margin. You're delusional if you think it is so just stop right there.

So your admitting that BLU isn't even in the same league as a NIN, DNC and THF?

And now it's a "guess" is it? You were pretty adamant, even so far as to call people names and make all sorts of wild statements, based on that "guess". Must of been one helluva guess. And I take it this statement about NIN, DNC and THF is also a "guess". Well if your previous guess is anything to go by then your wrong on this one by an order of magnitude, 1000%.

But please continue, I know your working over the spreadsheets right now trying to up this value, or lower that value to find a combination of def / vit / level that gives your position the biggest lead. You even going to go so far as to assume some other RDM is casting Dia III for your BLU/WAR in an attempt to make that number bigger.

Face it, you were wrong about RDM. You have even admitted it here, though you didn't realize you had until afterwards. You post of 3% difference is not the 30% you claimed. And even if you raised the level of the target it won't be 30%. You'll get 10~15% at best, 20% if the RDM is penalized in some fashion. That puts RDM right in line with what I've been saying for years now. RDM melee isn't weak, worthless or bad, it's within the same bracket of NIN / THF / DNC and BLU. It's not better then them, but it won't be far behind them either. And no where near a "F" rating.

But please, continue on. Your posting for the entire world to see and you've already disproved your earlier point. Calling names doesn't really help your position.

And btw, just to clarify a misconception you might have. A BLU/WAR with CDC is better then a NIN, THF or DNC. CDC beats out Hi and RS is only good if stacked with SA or TA. THF and DNC would be using Exten as their WS of choice. What makes CDC so strong is that it's a multi-hit critical WS with a high DEX mod. Stacking DEX not only raise's D and acc but raise's the critical hit rate until cap. If your perfect BLU/WAR can't crush the RDM/NIN, then neither will a NIN, DNC or THF.

[saevel]

Already did, that's the point. Your now backing yourself into a corner. You made a sweeping generalization months ago, have used that statement at every opportunity to bash and insult me and other RDMs. And your just proved yourself wrong in front of the very people you insulted.

Like I said, continue on, everyone's watching. This is the reason I've had you on ignore for months, only occasionally clicking view to see if your tones changes, and it hasn't. Maybe after this you'll stop posting anti-RDM stuff here. In any case you'll be hearing about this from now until the servers shutdown.

[Neisan_Quetz]

You obviously haven't or you wouldn't be thinking they're in the same bracket on fodder or harder mobs.

[saevel]

You obviously haven't or you wouldn't be thinking they're in the same bracket on fodder or harder mobs.

So tell everyone, is these THF, NIN and DNC weaker then your BLU/WAR?

Anyhow, lets end this right here and right now. Your wrong about RDM vs BLU, you've demonstrated your wrong. So stop making derogatory comments about RDM melee as every comment you make now applies to your perfect BLU/WAR also.

[Neisan_Quetz]

And btw, just to clarify a misconception you might have. A BLU/WAR with CDC is better then a NIN, THF or DNC. CDC beats out Hi and RS is only good if stacked with SA or TA. THF and DNC would be using Exten as their WS of choice. What makes CDC so strong is that it's a multi-hit critical WS with a high DEX mod. Stacking DEX not only raise's D and acc but raise's the critical hit rate until cap. If your perfect BLU/WAR can't crush the RDM/NIN, then neither will a NIN, DNC or THF.

Maybe from Blu/War. Most definitely not from Rdm. Rdm is a worst DD than all the heavy melees, all of the light melees, behind Blu (Rdm close to Nin in DD? you play with some fucking shitty Nins), probably abit better than Brd and Whm (assuming both are getting marches in Brd's case), and above Smn/Blm/Sch strictly because of how bad all 3 are at meleeing. I'm going to ignore Cor because trying to figure out RA/Qds is too troublesome, but I'd easily put money on WF/Last Stand over Rdm, so yea, that's a pretty bad DD if you can't justify it meleeing on fodder.

[saevel]

Maybe from Blu/War. Most definitely not from Rdm. Rdm is a worst DD than all the heavy melees, all of the light melees, behind Blu (Rdm close to Nin in DD? you play with some fucking shitty Nins), probably abit better than Brd and Whm (assuming both are getting marches in Brd's case), and above Smn/Blm/Sch strictly because of how bad all 3 are at meleeing. I'm going to ignore Cor because trying to figure out RA/Qds is too troublesome, but I'd easily put money on WF/Last Stand over Rdm, so yea, that's a pretty bad DD if you can't justify it meleeing on fodder.

So your stating that your perfect BLU/WAR is behind all those then? And yes CDC beats Hi, NIN's complain about Hi all the time.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Yes, it's behind an autoattacking Blu/war. Please post your proof of CDC on Rdm beating Hi, on fodder and even harder mobs, it's not happening even with Hi's unfavourable Mod. A decent Nin will absolutely outdamage a Rdm anywhere.

[saevel]

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Blade:_Hi

4.0 first hit, 1.0 on off hand hit. 5.0 fTP total 60% AGI mod, 15% bonus crit at 100tp

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Chant_du_Cygne
2.25 on first hit, 1.0 on second and third and off hand hit. 5.25 fTP total 60% DEX mod, 15% bonus crit at 100 TP

Hi's mod only increase D, CDC's mod increase's D and enhanced hit rate another 10~15%.

Swords have higher D then Katana's.

Yes CDC wins between those two.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Okay, so you have no proof, that's all you had to say. It's okay, I got most of the day, I can wait.