Nyzul Isle Uncharted information and feedback

[Scribble]

When you complain you should actually try to post better idea of how you would do it because how they worked out this problem is imo best option they had to choose.

The best option they had was sticking to the original formula and making the bosses for the new levels more difficult. Before any details were announced, this is exactly what players were expecting and hoping for.

Since when have the good things been easy to get?

Abyssea came out two years ago now? Yeah, right about then.

Any decent player with a empy should be able to perform well.

Bolded for emphasis. I completely agree that they should be able to perform well but the fact of the matter is, they aren't. Even the best players aren't making it to 100 with any sort of consistency.

I don't understand why people are still arguing for this. Its like if you played a basketball game and at the end of every quarter they added a random amount to your score. You could suck at the game and still come out with a win based on luck. You could destroy the other team, but not even come close in the total because of luck. It needs to be removed from the event.

SE has this thing about being wrong or something. Maybe they're just stubborn, but this event is worse than it used to be.

[Atoreis]

The best option they had was sticking to the original formula and making the bosses for the new levels more difficult. Before any details were announced, this is exactly what players were expecting and hoping for.



Abyssea came out two years ago now? Yeah, right about then.



Bolded for emphasis. I completely agree that they should be able to perform well but the fact of the matter is, they aren't. Even the best players aren't making it to 100 with any sort of consistency.

I don't understand why people are still arguing for this. Its like if you played a basketball game and at the end of every quarter they added a random amount to your score. You could suck at the game and still come out with a win based on luck. You could destroy the other team, but not even come close in the total because of luck. It needs to be removed from the event.

SE has this thing about being wrong or something. Maybe they're just stubborn, but this event is worse than it used to be.

Ppl still arguing because you are completely ignorant. You make it looks completely lucky based when its not. You need to clear at least 12 floors to beat 100 floor which is enough to block bad players. Being better and clearing more floors greatly increases your avg chance of reaching 100.

Even the best players aren't making it to 100 with any sort of consistency.

Ofc they not because it was suppose to be like that... Reaching floor 100 is a bonus for good players who can consistently reach floor 80. Its balanced with good drop rate and it will be even more improved with incoming changes.
You completely ignored what I wrote. Making event like old Nyzul would require bad drop rate which is far worse than random floors because playing better in this case has not even small impact on chance to obtain the item when playing better with random floor jumps actually makes a difference.

[Fupafighter]

Lol exactly. If it were like old nyzle, the gear would be nerfed. Have you even looked at the stats on the 100 gear? Damn if you expect to be able to obtain it all in a month, your on drugs.

[Fupafighter]

Oh and it's THEIR freakin game. They can do what they want. And obviously most of us still enjoy it, except for the people that just keep complaining things are impossible when they haven't taken the time or energy to reach out and get it. Very sad what alot of the player base has come to.

[FrankReynolds]

Luck = Skill.

the end.

[Atoreis]

Luck = Skill.

the end.

Thats trolling...

You need luck AND skill to reach floor 100 and group that on avg can clear more floors will on avg get to floor 100 more frequently.
Its like saying 5% Double attack and 15% double attack is the same because both will let you double attack sometimes. Sure but with 15%DA it will happen 3 times more often despite DA proc depends of luck.
Its the same here. The more skill you have the less luck you need to reach the target.
In old nyzul skill had nothing to do with chance to obtain an item. It was 100% luck if you got the drop or not.

[FrankReynolds]

In this case, it would be like having 100% DA from gear, but a %90 chance that it will never proc.

[Atoreis]

In this case, it would be like having 100% DA from gear, but a %90 chance that it will never proc.

Im sorry but what you are saying has no sense without taking the same drugs as you did.

[FrankReynolds]

Im sorry but what you are saying has no sense without taking the same drugs as you did.

If your group has 100% success rate on clearing floors (this would be the 100% DA rate), you still have 90% chance that the RNG will screw you (90% chance that DA will not proc).

On a side note, your original analogy about DA was dumb to begin with, and I never should have elaborated on it.

[Karbuncle]

Oh and it's THEIR freakin game.

*Wrong buzzer sound*

While they can do whatever they want, They're a company, and if they want to make money, They shouldn't act like 4 year olds throwing a tantrum. A game is only as good as its designers, and if the designers refuse to make the game enjoyable for the majority, it dies.

FFXIV.

And obviously most of us still enjoy it

I can count on 1 hand the number of people I've spoken with or seen Over BG, FFXIAH, and here that have actually said "I Enjoy the new Content being released".

One hand.

No, Most Everyone hates it, They hate Voidwatch's drop rates, they hate Neo-Nyzuls dumb luck. I'm not saying some don't enjoy it, But the overwhelming Majority of players hate the new content we're getting. I think the recent Nyzul announcement was the closest thing to happy people have felt in a FFXI update for years.

The only reason most of us still play is nothing short of an addiction, Which SE is slowly but surely breaking for most people, as demonstrated by the lowering subscription rate.

except for the people that just keep complaining things are impossible when they haven't taken the time or energy to reach out and get it. Very sad what alot of the player base has come to.

Sad that the player base is no longer a bunch of sadistic f**ks who get their pebbles off to Bot wars and Broom-raping eachother with mediocre challenge and artificial walls at HNM camps spouting drama at eachother and acting like FFXI is the best game in the world because it takes 3% Of your entire life to achieve a new Pixel?

Yah, it's sooooo sad we're past that era in FFXI. Here's a hint, Maybe most of the Player-base no longer enjoys spending 2 years of their life going after 1 item because we're not 13 anymore. Times change, people grow up, and SE needs to realize that. The majority of its current playerbase has grown up, they've gotten jobs, some even wives/husdbands/families, and its not getting any steady supply of new young players soon. SE needs to realize content designed to stretch for years is not what the majority wants anymore.

Kudos to you on wanting to spend at least the next year of your life for your armor, But I do not share this sentiment. Nor does most of the playerbase.

Edit: And just a small side note, I don't think I've seen anyone (correct me if I'm wrong) say that the new gear is "Impossible" to obtain, Most if not all complaints are centered around the luck portion of the event and that it encourages the use of third party tools to some extent. Not necessarily my opinion, But the general consensus I'm seeing.

Me personally, I'm fine with content designed to take a few months. Months is a good measurement. I don't want to breeze through it in a week, But i also don't want to be 0/200 (Looking at you Voidwatch) and losing all will to continue playing. Its a toss up. I didn't log on for a good 4-5 Days last week, And I logged on just yesterday cause i realized apparently I had enough crysta for another month, only to realize I have no will to play anymore because I don't want to do voidwatch and take my tally of "Voidwatch Bodies Obtained:" from 0/404 to anything higher (no, That number is not made up).

*Oh, And again, In case it was lost in short attention span - This announcement for Nyzul is an amazing compromise from SE, I enjoy that they're letting us have some sort of progression.