Nyzul Isle Uncharted information and feedback

[Greatguardian]

Example #2: Anyone who actually uses the phrase "BG Elitists" in a non-facetious manner.

[Scribble]

GG your gear isn't perfect either. The bottom line is it doesn't matter.

A 'gimp' group could get lucky and hit 100 and the 'dream team' could get stymied by crappy luck with floors. What does it mean? The event needs adjustments.

[Dreamin]

Example #2: Anyone who actually uses the phrase "BG Elitists" in a non-facetious manner.

As Scribble points out, your MNK isn't prefect either, so I guess that kind of kicks you off the elitist's level and into the lower class citizens because there aren't middle class in your opinion.

Why would you disrepect your Vere with a Merman to TP in? Really, merman? Come on, you can do better than that. Can't get your hands on at least Aesir? No Ocelomeh Headpiece +1? And you really TP in that AF3+2 body? Where's your Ocelomeh Harness+1 to pair up with that headpiece for TP? Where's your Toci? Should I go on? [using your logic that ppl's gear that they have on in ffxiah is their TP gear set is just lol].

[Greatguardian]

As Scribble points out, your MNK isn't prefect either, so I guess that kind of kicks you off the elitist's level and into the lower class citizens because there aren't middle class in your opinion.

Why would you disrepect your Vere with a Merman to TP in? Really, merman? Come on, you can do better than that. Can't get your hands on at least Aesir? No Ocelomeh Headpiece +1? And you really TP in that AF3+2 body? Where's your Ocelomeh Harness+1 to pair up with that headpiece for TP? Where's your Toci? Should I go on? [using your logic that ppl's gear that they have on in ffxiah is their TP gear set is just lol].

What kinda idiot TPs in Toci's with Impetus up?

Regardless, if the two of you think "Perfection" is what's required or even expected of people, you're lost causes. Even the most elite don't expect tangible perfection. The average is just so bad that even with lowered standards they're still terrible.

That doesn't excuse settling for less or being content with crap, though. You can't achieve perfection, but by chasing perfection you attain greatness.

Scribbles is also highly underestimating the event. It takes a hell of a lot of luck for even an elite group to hit 100. No gimps are going to hit it, period. Ever. I don't care if that never changes.

[Neisan_Quetz]

I hope that War gear on AH is tolling too then, because it's a bad tp set, a even worse ws set, and you shouldn't be idling in that junk either.

Uther's grip is a pretty clear indicator if you ask me, who trolls in -inv gear that has to be kept on?

[Dreamin]

I hope that War gear on AH is tolling too then, because it's a bad tp set, a even worse ws set, and you shouldn't be idling in that junk either.

Uther's grip is a pretty clear indicator if you ask me, who trolls in -inv gear that has to be kept on?

I'll entertain you with an answer:

my war is a wip, just literally finished it 3 weeks ago because I got bored of VW since Pil never puts out. what you see there is my throw together stuff for skilling mostly. plus I've said already, I'll never claim to have perfect gears. I dont know about others, but I like to cap my skills before I actually even think about what gears I really want/can-afford for the job (all of them are tradeoffs since I have so many jobs that I both enjoy and actually used).

I welcome any gear suggestions for WAR but that discussion would probably be more appropriate in the WAR forum then in here where the issue is Nyzul Isle Unchart.

[Kimya]

Now that we've argued over who is gimped and who is not and who deserves better gear than who... -_-

An additional suggestion to make the event "easier" or at least to make floor 100 more obtainable than 0.000001% of the time without hacks:

- Jumps go from 2-14 floors. Keeps the random factor, but the possibility of being able to travel more floors at least some of the time should make it easier to hit floor 100 more reliably. In the best case scenario: 1 --> 15 --> 29 --> 43 --> 57 --> 71 --> 85 --> 99 --> 100. That still requires you to clear at least 9 floors in a single run (as opposed to 12 under the current system in the best case scenario), but the likelihood of the best case scenario is still incredibly low. This should make it so that anyone who understands how to do Nyzul should be able to hit floor 60 consistently unless they run into extremely bad luck, and anyone who is decently geared should be able to consistently hit floor 80. Floor 100 will require luck on your side and a group that knows what they're doing.

For those who have been suggesting that the floor 20, 40, 60, 80, (100?) bosses drop TEs, how many boss floors are you usually hitting in a run? Unless you were hitting 2+ bosses in a run, I don't see how getting a 3-minute TE off one boss would make floor 100 that much more obtainable without extreme luck on your side considering most accounts that I've seen who haven't hinted at using exploits are still landing on floors 40-60. If the average is one boss per run before level 100, then I would assume a 5-10 minute TE would be more appropriate, although that could become completely broken if people managed to land on boss floors consistently and continue obtaining 5-10 minute TEs... Would be like an FPS survival game, but Nyzul style. <.<

Anyways, that is my two cents from yet another person who was *really* looking forward to the new Nyzul, but has been disappointed in its implementation.

[YJM5150]

Hello guys, I have to do regrettable information.
In a Japanese forum,the development team has said that
they are never going to change the specification of Neo Nyzul Isle
99% of things required for us is only just LUCK LUCK LUCK and LUCK.
We almost all Japanese players are getting angry very much
to this reply from the development team >:-(

[SpankWustler]

getting angry very much
to this reply from the development team >:-(

On the bright side, it's comforting to be reminded that some things transcend nations and cultures. I think "angry very much" is an excellent descriptor for how replies from the Development Bros often make people feel.

[Yinnyth]

Hello guys, I have to do regrettable information.
In a Japanese forum,the development team has said that
they are never going to change the specification of Neo Nyzul Isle
99% of things required for us is only just LUCK LUCK LUCK and LUCK.
We almost all Japanese players are getting angry very much
to this reply from the development team >:-(

"Like!"ed because I've always been curious as to how the Japanese players respond to things like this, but I'm too lazy to learn the language myself.

And I agree, the event is too heavily based on luck. I'm not saying it should be easier to the point where any aby-leveled idiot could farm a whole set of floor 100 gear, I'm saying skill is not a big enough factor in Nyzul. Even the best players in the world could wind up on a boss floor with white magic restricted.