Nyzul Isle Uncharted information and feedback

[Rezeak]

What i find funny is how i knwo like 2-3 people that have quitted over this and only because it was added in such a bad way ... if SE didn't have a update then they'd prolly would of stayed honestly content is ment to make people keep playing not quit

[Byrth]

I don't know how people can really bitch about this being a "luck based event" when every single event in the game is "luck based." If you aren't failing at getting bees to pop in Bhaflau, you're leveling woodworking in Logwatch or Walk of Logs.

At least with Nyzul Isle you have the potential to influence your "luck" by rising to meet the challenges presented to you as quickly as possible. A bad floor or two will definitely kill your chances at floor 100, but with Logwatch or Bees you're just stuck sitting there hoping the RNG favors you.

[Karbuncle]

I don't want the armor handed to us, But the idea that they literally erased any and all form of progression from this event... Its like they're just going back further. I mean, Voidwatch, I can give it some credit, You did progress. The drop rates all suck, But you'd get cruor to buff your Atmacites, and you actually cleared/saved progresses (unlike VNM's, Where you pop and it explodes).

[Atoreis]

Whats worse than the event are some idiots actually supporting it.

You gotta wonder what kind of person wants to do an event completely based on luck. I don't want the armor handed to us, But the idea that they literally erased any and all form of progression from this event... Its like they're just going back further. I mean, Voidwatch, I can give it some credit, You did progress. The drop rates all suck, But you'd get cruor to buff your Atmacites, and you actually cleared/saved progresses (unlike VNM's, Where you pop and it explodes).

Honestly, The people who actually support this crap must be so out of touch with good game design from years of FFXI, that any sense or judgment of real challenge, or how good an event can be with planning, over Random-Number-generator must be a foreign concept to them. Those poor poor people.

You must be in this game so long that you forgot that game itself can be a reward not the item.
This event being very fast, intense and forcing you to really optimal playing on top of using full buffs is most enjoyable event for years. If you cant get fun from actually playing the game you should think why are you still in this game.

If someone is crying or quitting because of low chance to get drops and cant enjoy game itself its pretty pathetic.

[Karbuncle]

Take none of this personally please byrth.

I don't know how people can really bitch about this being a "luck based event" when every single event in the game is "luck based." If you aren't failing at getting bees to pop in Bhaflau, you're leveling woodworking in Logwatch or Walk of Logs.

People complained about Salvage and Voidwatch Too though. There's a pattern here: People will complain when bad content is shoved down their throat. (or that someone will always complain!)

At least with Nyzul Isle you have the potential to influence your "luck" by rising to meet the challenges presented to you as quickly as possible. A bad floor or two will definitely kill your chances at floor 100, but with Logwatch or Bees you're just stuck sitting there hoping the RNG favors you.

Almost all of us hate those events too. Every hated Salvage outside of a few hardcore Crazy-people. It was fun the first few times, But watching a Rampart shit out 100 Chigoes is only so exciting after the 50th time. Same for Nyzul Isle.

Really, We're complaining because, Well, Rephrased, IM Complaining because, There are a million better ways to design an Event to keep Hardcores and Casuals Happy, Or at least, most of them. You can design an event that gives you a sense of progression, and still make armor really GD Difficult, or Time-consuming to obtain.

If people ended the run and got "200 Nyzul Points" for their effort, and 100,000 of those points could be turned in for 1 piece of Floor 80/100 Gear, complaining would be gone. Hardcores can shoot for 100, Casuals can shoot for 60/80, and Everyone gets a Consolation prize of being able to build up points to get a piece of armor some time in the future, Even if they dont meet their goal.

My point is, Sorry For the rambling byrth - There are ways to design content without relying on luck, MMO's do it all the time. SE just refuses to get with the times. I know its a foreign concept to 99% of Players these days, But events can be both Challenging, Fun, and rewarding at the same time, It just take planning.

[Ravenmore]

You must be in this game so long that you forgot that game itself can be a reward not the item.
This event being very fast, intense and forcing you to really optimal playing on top of using full buffs is most enjoyable event for years. If you cant get fun from actually playing the game you should think why are you still in this game.

Whats so great about hitting the ??? for a random chance of going up 2 or 9 floors that takes 0 skill. So you try your luck cimbing or you try your luck with the RNG. On top of the gear is side grades or worse then gear you can already get. This event is DOA more so now there is no trick or gimmic.

[Karbuncle]

You must be in this game so long that you forgot that game itself can be a reward not the item.
This event being very fast, intense and forcing you to really optimal playing on top of using full buffs is most enjoyable event for years. If you cant get fun from actually playing the game you should think why are you still in this game.

If someone is crying or quitting because of low chance to get drops and cant enjoy game itself its pretty pathetic.

I personally find Nothing fun about being disappointed over and over. Hey, If you get your kicks from going 0/300 in Voidwatch, thats your prerogative, and I salute you for that kind of devotion.

Though, I like being rewarded for my Hard work and dedication every now and again.

Either way, for me, there are plenty of more fun and rewarding games in the market today. FFXI Could be too, But they don't want to be.

People like us though, Never change our Mind. You're as set in your ways as i am. We can sit here screaming back and forth at eachother all day and neither of us are going to change our mind.

For the Record, I'm not quitting cause fo Nyzul Isle, I'm quitting because after 9 Years of Trial and Error with this game, Enjoying events with Friends, And having fun throughout, The Game is not fun anymore. Theres a point in everyones life where they have to realize something is not worth the frustration. This game has become more like a job than anything now. A job i pay for, and a job that has no reward.

Again, Kudos to you on still enjoying the game. Please, Go have fun with your new event, I'll be happy to see if you reach 100, no sarcasm. I'm waiting for that first group to do it, I want it to happen.

The only fun i have left in this game is doing things with my friends, And most of them are quitting too because of the direction the game is going. Its not just 1 Event, Its the compilation of bad planning, No listening, and R.N.G's over the last 9 years, People growing up, Having families, Getting a life, Etc. Theres many reasons to end a game, Sometimes its just the Straw that breaks the camels back though.

~Oh, I almost forgot, don't you ever tell someone its pathetic to quit a game, I don't care who. Not for a single reason should a person ever be condemned for moving on with their life. FFXI is just a game, When a game stops being fun to someone, They should move on, Who gives a shit what you think about their reasoning. Everyone enjoys different things in life, When someone decided something is no longer of interest, They move on with their life. Nothing Pathetic about it.

Maybe we both need to reevaluate how we look at this. I can see to some people this event can be fun, But you need to realize after 9 years, Some people don't have the time or energy to dedicate to this type of hardcore event anymore.

[Atoreis]

Whats so great about hitting the ??? for a random chance of going up 2 or 9 floors that takes 0 skill. So you try your luck cimbing or you try your luck with the RNG. On top of the gear is side grades or worse then gear you can already get. This event is DOA more so now there is no trick or gimmic.

Full buffs, very intense game ( fast decisions, fast moving ), 2hrs, many kind of mobs. You really have no fun from this?

[Atoreis]

Btw, floor 100 was hit already just not cleared.

I wasnt saying pathethic is to quit the game lol I said its pathethic because of that particular reason.
If someone is playing this game for years and quit because some new items seems to be hard to get Im asking what game he was playing those years because that wasnt ffxi lol

[Karbuncle]

Full buffs, very intense game ( fast decisions, fast moving ), 2hrs, many kind of mobs. You really have no fun from this?

I found it fun for a little while. But the no progression is what personally kills it for me. An event can be Fast paced, Fun, Challenging, Intense, and Rewarding.

This one leaves out the reward part

Btw, floor 100 was hit already just not cleared.

Where! I wanna see O_O. I wish they could have cleared it though... Wanted some clue as to drop rate on the 100 armor.