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    That's a pretty good point. If people find that the 60th floor is their ceiling, what will keep you going once you've gotten that gear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by detlef View Post
    That's a pretty good point. If people find that the 60th floor is their ceiling, what will keep you going once you've gotten that gear?
    Why do people buy lottery tickets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Why do people buy lottery tickets?
    To get furniture. Oh wait, you weren't talking about the Mog Bonanza.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Why do people buy lottery tickets?
    They want that 1 in 195 million shot at winning millions of dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Why do people buy lottery tickets?
    Buying lottery tickets doesn't require 5 other people to tag along with you on your daily runs.

    This isn't even Salvage comparable where you could access the kills every day either then bitch when Arrapago dropped nothing because it'd be a miracle to reach 80 with enough time to kill the boss and sort loot... assuming the loot even drops because we damn well know it isn't 100%. Oh and you need the correct pieces to drop, that'll be fun.

    People are going to try regardless but from an event that was originally the casual-mans Salvage, the event is going to be dry due to the Sisyphean task that getting to 80 or 100 is and marks a step backwards for the event as a whole. But this is SE and sometimes I wonder how they get dressed to come to work in the morning with how convoluted everything must be.

    There are limits to people's patience with tedious events as we've seen in the past. I really hate when events don't become popular because in this day and age it's ever more difficult to scrounge up people to do runs personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Why do people buy lottery tickets?
    Buying a ticket takes a minute and you are done. This event is 35+ min and is pretty aweful unless there is something we are missing in terms of floor progression.

    You can be completely cock blocked by some of the mobs. We got a clear all floor 12 with Cronum Chariot that spams brain jack....I mean come on. There is also a rat that tosses bombs and runs around the zone(not too far) and is a total time sink and heaven forbid you randomly hit floor 20-40-60 on the way up and have to fight a boss that isn't hard but kills your clock.

    They could have done this event much better and there would actually be the predicted congestion, the way its setup now most people will get tired of the randomness and stop doing Nyzul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint2 View Post
    Buying a ticket takes a minute and you are done. This event is 35+ min and is pretty aweful unless there is something we are missing in terms of floor progression.

    You can be completely cock blocked by some of the mobs. We got a clear all floor 12 with Cronum Chariot that spams brain jack....I mean come on. There is also a rat that tosses bombs and runs around the zone(not too far) and is a total time sink and heaven forbid you randomly hit floor 20-40-60 on the way up and have to fight a boss that isn't hard but kills your clock.

    They could have done this event much better and there would actually be the predicted congestion, the way its setup now most people will get tired of the randomness and stop doing Nyzul.
    Don't get me wrong, I agree with both of you.

    I think buying lottery tickets is silly, but it's the same basic mechanic. "You can't win if you don't play". Even if the odds of actually hitting floor 100, or hitting 80 with enough time to actually fight the boss, are astronomical, people will still shoot for it for a while at least.

    Personally, I'm more curious about how we're "supposed" to do this. It will be interesting to figure out. If nothing else, greater efficiency and practice might yield more consistent floor 80 runs down the road. I will be disappointed if there's no trick to this, but it just came out so I'm willing to wait it out a bit. Neo-Dynamis, Abyssea, and and Einherjar all the got the same reception on release (though Ein was legitimately screwed and had to be patched).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I agree with both of you.

    I think buying lottery tickets is silly, but it's the same basic mechanic. "You can't win if you don't play". Even if the odds of actually hitting floor 100, or hitting 80 with enough time to actually fight the boss, are astronomical, people will still shoot for it for a while at least.

    Personally, I'm more curious about how we're "supposed" to do this. It will be interesting to figure out. If nothing else, greater efficiency and practice might yield more consistent floor 80 runs down the road. I will be disappointed if there's no trick to this, but it just came out so I'm willing to wait it out a bit. Neo-Dynamis, Abyssea, and and Einherjar all the got the same reception on release (though Ein was legitimately screwed and had to be patched).
    No one knew how the proc system worked with neo-dynamis, so everyone hated it until they knew how it worked. Abyssea sucked because no one had any clue what each light did and for 2 days it was misguided information and speculation, especially when we didnt have atma's until that system is figured out. If SE released the area and said what each important thing did in that zone, then it would be welcome in the beginning, not after the second week. So what's the gimmick here huh? Yeah there seems to be none but luck based. It's the same thing as the digging orichalum ore assault 5x in a row and never getting anything but worse, cause you know your odds of getting ore are 87.5% higher than reaching floor 100, killing boss, and sorting drops before getting tossed outside.

    Searching Nyzul isle since 5 hours after update proved as many as 20something in zone, and about 80% of the time, there were none. Biggest flop of an update/new zone i've seen since i've been playing
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    I remember when they added NPC follows and the masive amount of players that were doing it, and that was fluff..this is supposed to be proper 99 endgame. Go read the test server feedback about Neo-nyzul and lol at the reps talking about all the worry they had over congestion lol
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    Kinda makes you wonder do Squeenix actually want to keep their playerbase or watch them quit one at a time ?

    Way to go yet another half hearted event that has no brainpower behind it , I could tolerate it if it wasn't just a blatant cut and paste of Normal Nyzul with the added absurd luck factor - if this is what they've come up with so far , do we really want to see what's next for their "revamps"?
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