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  1. #241
    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nynja View Post
    lol? What the fk happened to making 16m per run?
    Did I say 16M per run where ¿ I said "I made 16M today just from dynamis"
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    what the hell are you talking about expensive then relic and such, empy's are sooo much easier and vw nms are a joke for plates besides people selling 100's from 700k-1mill a pice is way more expensive then a empy will ever be. If anything SE might lower the requirement and Arch DL....fun. He makes VW seem easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newmonkey View Post

    Ls friend has just finished empy 99 stage in one day pfftt hard my arse
    Why is it that so many people seem to either skim through posts, or lack reading comprehension? There is nothing hard about the empyrean trials if you have the gil to spend and the supply is sufficient.


    The fact that you are forced to spend millions of gil on both trials to be able to finish within a reasonable amount of time, is utterly ridiculous in itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

  4. #244
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    Well Marc was crying on saying its a hard trial because he couldn't find 60 dross and i posted the pic showing Vod got 60 dross in less than a hour from upper jeuno.

    It's pretty obvious hes from a fucked up server were apparently there is no supply but on quetz obviously there is, end of the day 60 dross is nothing and its a good solid number.

    Sure by all means make the plates drop more often as 1500 is pretty high.
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    Last edited by newmonkey; 02-11-2012 at 04:54 AM.

  5. #245
    Player Tamoa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by newmonkey View Post
    Well Marc was crying on saying its a hard trial because he couldn't find 60 dross and i posted the pic showing Vod got 60 dross in less than a hour from upper jeuno.

    It's pretty obvious hes from a fucked up server were apparently there is no supply but on quetz oibviously there is, end of the 60 dross is nothing and its a good solid number.

    Sure by all means make the plates drop more often as 1500 is pretty high.
    That's the whole point. You're depending on supply to be able to finish, plus the fact that even if you personally spam the 2 vwnms that can drop riftdross/cinder, you might end up with nothing.

    As soon as interest in voidwatch drops (i.e. when new events are introduced), chances are the supply of both plates and dross/cinder will dry up. And it doesn't matter how much gil you have, if there's no plates or dross/cinder to buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

  6. #246
    Player newmonkey's Avatar
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    Why would people stop spamming them ? Plates and dross sell for good money, however im pretty sure in the other chapters of vw left to come more plates and dross etc will drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newmonkey View Post
    Why would people stop spamming them ? Plates and dross sell for good money, however im pretty sure in the other chapters of vw left to come more plates and dross etc will drop.
    Yeah and I was pretty sure that Jeuno II chapter would drop heavy metal pouches, it seemed like a logical progression from Jeuno and Zilart paths. Or at the very least singles. But hey guess what, no pouches, and only 2 of them can drop single plates. So I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you, I sure am not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

  8. #248
    Player newmonkey's Avatar
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    Well if that happens then by all means give them hell on here or continue to do so now so it doesn't happen.

    All that bothers me is the cheap shots between empyrean holders and relic holders each one aruging why the other is more difficult or expensive and it's a bit silly now the trials are the most balanced they have ever been.

    Let's also not forget we know the stats for all weapons now and some relics are better than empyreans and some empyreans are better than some relics.
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    Last edited by newmonkey; 02-11-2012 at 05:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    Did I say 16M per run where ¿ I said "I made 16M today just from dynamis"
    Ok, and even if you did 2 runs in 1 day, you just upped your currency count from ~5m per run to ~8m per run, which still makes no sense at all.
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    With the version update only four days away, I doubt SE has even looked at this thread, more less, even considered making sure the player base knows there will a constant rate of HMP and dross/cinder on the servers. More of us are just asking for this. I will buy HMP and dross/cinder if the price seems right, but on Asura, the prices are going up every day it seems. 130k for HMP and 1mil-1.5mil seem to be the norm on cinder. I have seen dross go for 800k, but still yet that's a little over the top. SE needs to realize the content that supplies HMP and dross/cinder needs an adjustment for these three items alone. I am willing to stay here and voice my opinion on the matter, but I am also going to patiently wait and see if SE fixes this in four days as well. If no go? Then I will be making sure a shit storm comes this way on the forums. I agree we all have seem to have gotten off topic at some points to argue, but now it is time to get on topic or else SE will just scoff at this and continue on their "Merry Bullshit Way" and not even care. Look, I'm sorry your relic trials suck for who has one. Like someone mentioned, prices can range across servers, and on Asura, it sucks. At least the ADL umbral's were reduced to 5 from 20. Yes, argue that it would've been complete bullshit if it wasn't, but can't you all see that's what us Empyrean holders are doing as well? All of us believe it's complete bullshit that HMP and dross/cinder drop rates are less likely to be seen than they should.
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