99 Empyrean Trials.

[Erics]

Camate, where are you with answers?! Will we see adjustments to heavy metal plates in some way or not?!..

Yeah, I know calling for a dev probably won't work, but now I'm getting desperate for any answer on the topic at this time, especially with the update close at hand...

[Zinato]

You won't like the answer he brings. The likelihood of an adjustment to quantity is nearly 0. What should be the bigger focus for empyrean owners right now should be assuring HMP will be available from sources other then the current 6 VWNM. Or, that some method to ensure continued participation on those VWNM. Once players can get conformation that HMP will stay in circulation then, they can work on getting decreases. Bottom line is 1500 or 100 if none are available and runs are never formed players still wont get the trial finished. With so many empyrean waiting to be upgraded there needs to be a rather large supply before this issue truly goes away.

[Ravenmore]

Yeah because everyone is going to help relic holders do adl all the time, at least you can actually go join pugs to do your 99 stage.

For now they can, soon they won't.

[DrStrangelove]

Umbrals are fine, 2 hours a day for 5 days or less to finish. Wish I could get 60 riftdross in 10 hours.

I had some dope tell me I needed to work and save up money to buy a house. I told him that was silly since I could take the $5 I had in my pocket to win the lottery. No need to work when you can just win the lottery every day!

Bottom line: any strategy (whether its for plates, rift or umbrals) that is based on the best case, best luck, best help of others scenario is a useless strategy.

And, not to be a downer, but if I use your logic, I only need 60 VNM kills to get 60 riftdross. Perfect party, perfect triggers = 10 minute kills, perfect drops for 60 fights = 60 riftdross. Win!!

[Finuve]

I had some dope tell me I needed to work and save up money to buy a house. I told him that was silly since I could take the $5 I had in my pocket to win the lottery. No need to work when you can just win the lottery every day!

Bottom line: any strategy (whether its for plates, rift or umbrals) that is based on the best case, best luck, best help of others scenario is a useless strategy.

And, not to be a downer, but if I use your logic, I only need 60 VNM kills to get 60 riftdross. Perfect party, perfect triggers = 10 minute kills, perfect drops for 60 fights = 60 riftdross. Win!!

this is a game, take your real life comparisons and gtfo

[Zikon]

Ahhhh almost did something stupid and forget about such a helpful feature as the ignorelist. This thread just became about empyrean's again with a Sh*t ton of blank areas.

[wish12oz]

I have a better suggestion. Why don't you discuss the topic?

Why don't you stay on the topic instead of trying to change it and bring up crap that has nothing to do with the thread in general, which is empyrean trials for levels 95 and 99.

And FYI, since I just checked, people in this thread, including the OP (who has no relic), post repeatedly in Relic threads.

I already responded to your tired drivel about this. To bad you didn't bother to read it.

You have funny posts.

First, I have both a relic and an empyrean, unlike you who has 1 empy (and no relic or mythic) and the OP who has 3 empys (and no relic or mythic). !!

So, of the 3 of us, my opinion, is far more valid.

I pay for 5 accounts, I have 3 empyreans and 1 relic and about to be 5 ebisu's, which are sort of like relics, if we're comparing opinions and which persons should hold more weight, I've done more then you, I have more then you, and I pay SE 5x more then you, so it's definitely me, so gtfo.

ALSO: If you're gonna claim to be a big shot, maybe you should not hide on a level 1 mule hiding who you are, I doubt you have anything based on the things you've said, and it's not like you've proved anything to anyone. So take your level 1 self and leave my thread before you make yourself look more dumb.

Where's your proof of your relic?

[macross]

I had some dope tell me I needed to work and save up money to buy a house. I told him that was silly since I could take the $5 I had in my pocket to win the lottery. No need to work when you can just win the lottery every day!

Bottom line: any strategy (whether its for plates, rift or umbrals) that is based on the best case, best luck, best help of others scenario is a useless strategy.

And, not to be a downer, but if I use your logic, I only need 60 VNM kills to get 60 riftdross. Perfect party, perfect triggers = 10 minute kills, perfect drops for 60 fights = 60 riftdross. Win!!

2 hours a day for 5 days isn't based on any luck, it's almost a sure thing with the umbral being 100% drop. In fact, doesn't even take anywhere close to 2 hours to farm a adl pop and kill him, and it can drop up to 2 when you do win! If you got mules to reset 2hours can kill more than one a day as well. Very easy trial. Same as PW, very very easy.

Ogre and flan if you have perfect triggers and perfect party you can kill it in 3 minutes. Even so, you aren't guaranteed a drop at all every time you win. I've killed 60+ ogre/flans, I sure as hell don't got anything close to 60 dross, i've gotten 3 from all my kills. If you think getting 1500 hmp is hard, the supply of dross/cinder is even shittier due to those 2 mobs being alot harder for the avg pickup, and the fact they drop tons of loot thus people are done with them and not killing em as much. And theres 8 mobs that drop hmps, not 6, and they are still farmed daily.

[Ravenmore]

2 hours a day for 5 days isn't based on any luck, it's almost a sure thing with the umbral being 100% drop. In fact, doesn't even take anywhere close to 2 hours to farm a adl pop and kill him, and it can drop up to 2 when you do win! If you got mules to reset 2hours can kill more than one a day as well. Very easy trial. Same as PW, very very easy.

Ogre and flan if you have perfect triggers and perfect party you can kill it in 3 minutes. Even so, you aren't guaranteed a drop at all every time you win. I've killed 60+ ogre/flans, I sure as hell don't got anything close to 60 dross, i've gotten 3 from all my kills. If you think getting 1500 hmp is hard, the supply of dross/cinder is even shittier due to those 2 mobs being alot harder for the avg pickup, and the fact they drop tons of loot thus people are done with them and not killing em as much. And theres 8 mobs that drop hmps, not 6, and they are still farmed daily.

And 17 suckers giving up their time to get you to that point. Not just their dyna time but time they could be doing idk Legion, new Nyzul, Abyssea farming, exp, any thing else that drops more for less effort. If you got 17 fools to help you great but giving up 2 hours a couple of years ago for little gain was not that much when you could play 4 to 8 hours a day but we as a player base have gotten older now 2 hours is what most people have to play for the day or every couple of days.

There is nothing in Xaca of worth(outside of upgrades items) that couldn't be gotten faster in a 6 man group that you could offer people help you build a adl pop. DL items, a 6 man group can killl him and not have to lot/bid/<insert perverted act here> against 17 others so thats not that attractive, ADL trash drops lol will so poor sheep want it sure but to get 17 sheep for it gl.

[newmonkey]

2 hours a day for 5 days isn't based on any luck, it's almost a sure thing with the umbral being 100% drop. In fact, doesn't even take anywhere close to 2 hours to farm a adl pop and kill him, and it can drop up to 2 when you do win! If you got mules to reset 2hours can kill more than one a day as well. Very easy trial. Same as PW, very very easy.

Ogre and flan if you have perfect triggers and perfect party you can kill it in 3 minutes. Even so, you aren't guaranteed a drop at all every time you win. I've killed 60+ ogre/flans, I sure as hell don't got anything close to 60 dross, i've gotten 3 from all my kills. If you think getting 1500 hmp is hard, the supply of dross/cinder is even shittier due to those 2 mobs being alot harder for the avg pickup, and the fact they drop tons of loot thus people are done with them and not killing em as much. And theres 8 mobs that drop hmps, not 6, and they are still farmed daily.

You really are making me laugh now the empy trial is by far the easiest and cheaper than relic trial just go wait in jeuno and buy the damh dross, gl finding 5 marrows to buy for anything less than 100 mil but still gl even buying them.

I'd say mythics got the easiest 99 trial due to the zeni increase then empys due to the fact you can buy it all a lot easier than marrows and you can spam it all day all at the same time buying it from other people there and getting a chance at good gear.

You must be from a big ls what farms adl, most relic holders arn't part of a big ls now so im sorry cut the bs because the relic trial is far from easy. Most people in this game are out for themselves i really can't see 17 other people going out to help a relic holder get 5 marrows when they can solo dynamis and get 2 mil gil.

Then factor in even in a small ls there will be multiple relics mine for instance one person alone has 7 do you really think the ls is going to keep spamming adl for this person ?

So cut the crap Marc, we all know who got the best deal from the 99 trials and it certainly wasn't relic holders.