Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
I even stated previously that it's currently the second best healer. There is no argument relevant to what you're posting.

As for Saevel, arguments that conveniently pick and choose evidence should be noted as doing so. If you have a problem with it, support your arguments more carefully in the future. Fewer fallacies in favor of actual evidence would help too. The fact of the matter is that BLU is not getting balanced by this update, it's being left in the dust. Nowhere have I asked for Magic Fruit to even stay competitive with Cure 4 post-update, I just want it to be given a small boost to accomodate our increased HP.
Umm what ... the entire first half of your paragraph is just BS. I didn't pick and choose a damn thing and you know it.

And yes you did ask for Fruit to be "updated" to compete with Cure V. Asking for BLU heals to use native Blue magic skill would immediately have the effect of capping their cure power at the soft cap of Cure V. That cap is far beyond the cap of Cure IV.

Right ~now~ Fruit and better then Cure IV, not to mention embrace.

Now for some fun, since everyone likes to just "hit cure potency cap" without thinking about the gear involved, lets get real.

RDM
Weapon: Galenus, Cure Pot +10% (can be off handed as /DNC or /NIN)
Body: Nefer Kalasiris (Cure +10%). This is a multi-million gil item from the AH, the full version is from Akvan and I'm something like 0/100 on it. I know someone who went 1/196. Assuming +15% is complete BS.
Hands / Feet: Serpentes: Cure Pot +5%
Legs: Praeco Slacks Cure Pot +4%
Back: Oretanio's Cape: Cure Pot +4%

Total: Cure +33%
If you really going the distance you can toss in the additional +14% from Magian Staff (+47).

Blu:
Weapon: Galenus +10%
Hands / Feet: Serpentes Cure +5%
Legs: Praeco Slacks Cure Pot +4%
Back: Oretanio's Cape: Cure Pot +4%

Total: Cure +23%. If anyone insists on forcing the RDM to use a staff then the BLU must sword+shield with an augmented genbus Cure Pot +5% for 28% total.

@33% RDM Cure IV is 530 HP, @47 its 586, Capping Healing skill @368 gives
@33% Cure IV is 537, @47 its 593. We've hit the soft cap long long time ago.

@23% BLU Fruit is 590, @28 it's 614. I used 120MND and 90VIT for this @150 healing skill. The BLU is just touching the soft cap. Additional MND can still be used. Embrace scales the same as fruit but has 110 higher base cure power, this gives it ~130 high cured value.

Without having to get anything difficult the BLU shoots past the RDM in cure power even though it's got less cure potency. Fruit / Embrace are Cure V and scale as Cure V would. Thus with only 150 skill, 120 MND and minimal cure potency (23%) a BLU/WHM can out cure a RDM ~and~ still use their damage spells, Almace and CDC. Take away the /WHM and you get 550 fruits @23% cure pot which is ridiculous when you consider the BLU is now /WAR or /DNC with all the power that entails.

So please tell me how BLU isn't curb stomping RDM in the party support / main healing department.