Guest or New Player 20min default log out

[SpankWustler]

One thing to keep in mind is that while places with public internet access in the US are basically "we are a restaurant with Wi-Fi, bring your own laptop and view internet pornography great and terrible while eating your cheeseburger", such might not be the case in Japan.

The reason the auto-disconnect setting wasn't set to OFF on guest log-in is to ensure that third parties (such as curious siblings, an angry girlfriend, a revengeful behemoth, etc.) aren't able to access the account if the guest forgot to log out.

I guess Camate has a bit of a reputation around the office, huh?

[Arcon]

Really guys, it's not like it's that hard to go into the options and turn it off. One of the first things I do in any game is look through the options to see what's changeable and what's not.

Really guy, you do that every time you turn a game on? After five hundred twenty-seven times starting up Hello Kitty Island Adventure, don't you just wanna skip the visit to the config menu and jump straight into the catty action? So do we.

If it has to default to off, how about making a global config for it and let that one default to off, and it can be changed once for all new guest accounts created?

One thing to keep in mind is that while places with public internet access in the US are basically "we are a restaurant with Wi-Fi, bring your own laptop and view internet pornography great and terrible while eating your cheeseburger", such might not be the case in Japan.

Would you play FFXI on their machines though? I find that kinda hard to imagine. And with global settings (outside of the account) these could also all default to off and be unchangeable without admin permissions, and the problem would be fixed. And I'm having an even harder time trying to imagine people in public places not signing out of their FFXI account. Can you be that forgetful?

Either way, nothing that isn't fixable.

[SpankWustler]

Would you play FFXI on their machines though? I find that kinda hard to imagine. And with global settings (outside of the account) these could also all default to off and be unchangeable without admin permissions, and the problem would be fixed. And I'm having an even harder time trying to imagine people in public places not signing out of their FFXI account. Can you be that forgetful?

I agree with this line of thinking. I'm just not sure "someone might play FFXI on a public computer" is as close to moon logic as a lot of people are implying.

I know that impoverished and dorky people can sleep and shower in some internet cafes in Japan, which means there are some drastically different places than any internet cafe in the US. Some of the places have libraries of dorky literature and cinema, also. The name for these places eludes me at the moment, but imagine the dorkiest hostel ever and you're pretty close.

I have literally no idea what kind of stuff people might do on the public computers in a place like that. I definitely wouldn't play FFXI there, but then again, I'd also darken a friend's couch before I slept there.

[Greatguardian]

If it has to default to off, how about making a global config for it and let that one default to off, and it can be changed once for all new guest accounts created?

Would you play FFXI on their machines though? I find that kinda hard to imagine. And with global settings (outside of the account) these could also all default to off and be unchangeable without admin permissions, and the problem would be fixed. And I'm having an even harder time trying to imagine people in public places not signing out of their FFXI account. Can you be that forgetful?

Either way, nothing that isn't fixable.

Global config would be helpful, certainly.

People do play the vidya at those cafes, though. MMOs are certainly not uncommon. Monster Hunter is up there, too. Hell, most JP PC games are online these days. As for being forgetful? Well, just look at Facebook's "Hack" rates. Everyone knows someone who's left their account online on some public machine before.

[Babekeke]

Global config would be helpful, certainly.

People do play the vidya at those cafes, though. MMOs are certainly not uncommon. Monster Hunter is up there, too. Hell, most JP PC games are online these days. As for being forgetful? Well, just look at Facebook's "Hack" rates. Everyone knows someone who's left their account online on some public machine before.

Generally, Facebook hacks (frapes) are when people leave their phone unattended. Once we can play ffxi on iPhone/android, this will be a problem, but not before.

[Greatguardian]

Generally, Facebook hacks (frapes) are when people leave their phone unattended. Once we can play ffxi on iPhone/android, this will be a problem, but not before.

You mean you don't know how to play ffxi on iphone/android?

[Arcon]

As for being forgetful? Well, just look at Facebook's "Hack" rates. Everyone knows someone who's left their account online on some public machine before.

I don't know, there is a difference. How often do you log out of facebook at home? Now how often do you log out of FFXI? People are pretty much conditioned to log out of the game when they stop playing (aside from a few people who leave it running fulltime, but I also think that largely happens in homes where people are used to keep their PC running at all times, not in public places). I don't have any statistics or anything, but the chance of that happening even in isolated cases seems highly unlikely to me.

Also, the default is 20min, I believe. If you really forget to log out somewhere where people would take advantage of it, this would be more than enough for them to just get to your account, after they move once the timer is reset anyway. So it just really prevents people from accidentally finding your account unlogged after an hour or so.