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  1. #11
    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    No one wants to help anymore.

    Every so often I see shouts for all the Genkai's (well besides maat fight & onward) they nearly NEVER get any help unless they say "(|Reward:100k|)" or more or less gil...depending on how much they bought :/ (I assume bought cause I don't think many newbs would get into abyssea yet...much less cucor farm)

    This game is not newb friendly anymore.
    Never fear, you helped them right?...right?

    Same as the rest of us, you can't be bothered. Anyway I don't know what game you've been playing but it's always been this way, it was always pulling teeth to get help with stuff from randoms. FFXI was never, ever newbie friendly.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Never fear, you helped them right?...right?

    Same as the rest of us, you can't be bothered. Anyway I don't know what game you've been playing but it's always been this way, it was always pulling teeth to get help with stuff from randoms. FFXI was never, ever newbie friendly.
    While I will agree that it was always been pulling teeth to get help on this game, I will say that she has helped a lot of people with Genkai stuff for free.
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  3. #13
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    I've only seen this once so far personally, and it was someone who asked to join my shell. I was honestly confused as to why someone level 48 wouldn't have a subjob. Turns out he didn't know how, and had no idea the wiki existed. Once we pointed him in the right direction he had his subjob, and knew that he needed a levelcap done far enough in advance to get help for it from the shell.

    It's never been easy to get help in this game without a helpful shell or friends that are higher level. It's never been easy to figure out what you need to do on your own without knowing the wikis exist (especially if you're a console player, or back before official windowed mode existed). I've always done my best to help for free if I see a shout when I'm not already promised to something else.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Same as the rest of us, you can't be bothered.
    Speak for yourself. Oh wait, that's what you're doing. Just because you're antisocial doesn't mean everyone else is.

    Although honestly, I can't relate to what Tohihroyu is saying. I still see people getting help all the time (and we're on the same server), and I myself also always help people whenever I have the time, be it genkai, missions, quests or whatever doesn't require a shitload of farming. I also talk to a lot of new players and they say how helpful people on here are compared to other games. Sure, it doesn't always go so well (event times or whatever), but generally after a while people will get help on here. That's been my experience for the last seven years and hasn't changed until now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sealdorie View Post
    I was honestly confused as to why someone level 48 wouldn't have a subjob. Turns out he didn't know how, and had no idea the wiki existed.
    How in the hell do people not know how to look stuff up on the internet in this day and age? There is no sympathy to be had for people who insist on wearing their pants on their head.
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  6. #16
    Player Sealdorie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    How in the hell do people not know how to look stuff up on the internet in this day and age? There is no sympathy to be had for people who insist on wearing their pants on their head.
    Honestly, a similar thought passed through my mind as well. But I gave him the benefit of the doubt after seeing the initiative he's taken since being pointed in the right direction.

    I see too many new players demand that their hand be held for them, who then end up rage quitting because no one will walk them to each quest NPC they need to talk to or hand-hold them through mobs they can easily solo.
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  7. #17
    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    How in the hell do people not know how to look stuff up on the internet in this day and age? There is no sympathy to be had for people who insist on wearing their pants on their head.
    Honestly I don't think it's that people don't know, I think it's that you can get away with it these days (people leveling alts are the worst for lazyness). In the past if you were a level 40 <job> with no sub nobody would invite you, so you had to do these things. These days you can get invited to a GoV alliance with no sub, no weapon and a party hat on.
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  8. #18
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    This is true. I've been in a few GoV parties with people wearing event items, swinging away with Christmas bells. Though to be honest, I'd rather see someone half ass it than just stand there and leech exp.

    It's true, finding help is hard pressed unless you actually know people. I came back and couldn't find a soul to assist me, which sucks because level retarded aside, I probably would have been a huge asset to them later on. This game used to be all about community. I'm almost tempted to start an LS devoted to old school ideals. Help the weak get strong, earn your subjob while fleeing from Goblins in the dunes. That kind of crap. I doubt it would succeed, but at least my karma would be good.
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    Player Francisco's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haldarn View Post
    FFXI is too easy, so people are levelling mules without subjobs for the extra challenge?
    Maybe.

    I took a THF up to 90 with no SJ to help out with TH on empyrean NMs... turned out to be a waste of time mostly... but at least I made a few mil off it.

    Had fun asking the dumb questions about subjobs every abyssea party I got... "how do you guys have 2 jobs? is it a hack?" - amazed I never got kicked...
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    Player Sealdorie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francisco View Post
    Maybe.

    I took a THF up to 90 with no SJ to help out with TH on empyrean NMs... turned out to be a waste of time mostly... but at least I made a few mil off it.

    Had fun asking the dumb questions about subjobs every abyssea party I got... "how do you guys have 2 jobs? is it a hack?" - amazed I never got kicked...
    Wish I had thought of this when I made my two alternate accounts and got subjobs. I would have had so much fun.
    Though as far as alternate accounts go I often wonder how people do it. I care too much about each one and want them to be the best because... I actually plan to use them instead of having them leech for stuff.
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