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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDelicious View Post
    jealousy? hardly. id just like to see players um-gimp themselves by seeing more non-abyssea content. atmas have become a crutch, and its becoming a serious problem. the xp boon in abyssea changed xp forever, and even if they took it up to 75, there would be so many players bitching about having to grind they would bring it back down. no one wants to grind, and the people who are saying bring the cap up, are mostly the old school people who actually did have to grind. but it taught you to be cautious. because xp WAS precious. a blm would spend a whole day on puddings getting their buffer back. now, its a 30 run in a dominion party. you die now, no big deal, but it used to be. and thats the problem.
    EXP was only precious if you were a gimp idiot who never got any invites on account of being so gimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDelicious View Post
    jealousy? hardly. id just like to see players um-gimp themselves by seeing more non-abyssea content. atmas have become a crutch, and its becoming a serious problem. the xp boon in abyssea changed xp forever, and even if they took it up to 75, there would be so many players bitching about having to grind they would bring it back down. no one wants to grind, and the people who are saying bring the cap up, are mostly the old school people who actually did have to grind. but it taught you to be cautious. because xp WAS precious. a blm would spend a whole day on puddings getting their buffer back. now, its a 30 run in a dominion party. you die now, no big deal, but it used to be. and thats the problem.
    You seem to imply that people arguing against raising the cap never leveled a job without grinding outside abyssea, which is a baseless claim and totally false. I for one am tired of the grind after doing it for so many years.
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  3. #243
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbeansman View Post
    EXP was only precious if you were a gimp idiot who never got any invites on account of being so gimp.
    wow, that makes both no sense and is redundant. you fail on multiple levels. and umm, ever play blm before abyssea? if you did, you would know how little sense you make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDelicious View Post
    wow, that makes both no sense and is redundant. you fail on multiple levels. and umm, ever play blm before abyssea? if you did, you would know how little sense you make.
    Blm could solo reasonably fast anyway, so it was no major loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDelicious View Post
    wow, that makes both no sense and is redundant. you fail on multiple levels. and umm, ever play blm before abyssea? if you did, you would know how little sense you make.
    Your right exp was never precious EVER.
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  6. #246
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    Level progression use to be were once you leveled up in a party you would gradually skill up and max out with each passing level. Today level progression level to 30 with maybe max skill level grab some key's open some chest get to around 65+ try to melee find out you can't hit anything maybe once or twice in a span of 30minutes. Then have alot of sugguestion's on making skill ups easier because the lack of level progression to begin with. This is kinda an issue don't you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odintius View Post
    Level progression use to be were once you leveled up in a party you would gradually skill up and max out with each passing level. Today level progression level to 30 with maybe max skill level grab some key's open some chest get to around 65+ try to melee find out you can't hit anything maybe once or twice in a span of 30minutes. Then have alot of sugguestion's on making skill ups easier because the lack of level progression to begin with. This is kinda an issue don't you think?
    Not really. Skilling up weapons can already be done afk.
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  8. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsos View Post
    You seem to imply that people arguing against raising the cap never leveled a job without grinding outside abyssea, which is a baseless claim and totally false. I for one am tired of the grind after doing it for so many years.
    well, how many people sit on their lvl 30 jobs, flags up and get invites for leeching? it doesnt happen on my server, and id like to see those mid levels actually doing SOMETHING, instead of JUST leeching. and short of making all my own abyssea parties, which is a huge pain in the ass, id just like to see some action in the mid levels. and the majority will say, "make your own 6 man party then" well, there isnt 6 people who will take less xp by choice. but if SE gave those mid levels another option, i saw someone mention a low level abyssea area, that would revitalize those levels and probably solve alot of these issues.
    i think people want to actually play a job to cap, not play, leech, play. and thats probably what everyone is ranting about.
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  9. #249
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    Look, I level BLM and BLU from 1-75/80 the hard way, grinding through each levels and with Level Sync, spending a week aquiring or farming gil for gear, getting spells and then skilling up before going back into a party only to get about two levels a day, and I started my own manaburns and parties; despite not liking to be leader because starting my own got the job done quicker. But I'm not someone who is bothered by other BLUs and BLMs getting there in two days.

    Get over it. There were also people who could have done it with SMN burns. If the cap was raised, then SMN burns would just become more popular gain and no one could try and solo or duo in Korroloka.
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    Last edited by Komori; 03-17-2011 at 04:22 AM.

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    to me gunit you sound like a retard with my 2 accounts i have 13 90's and i didnt leech one job to 90. they were all at 75 when cap to 80 came. and becuase your jobs are gimp doesnt make me gimp by any means. i've soloed nm in abyssea that ls's have problems with and killed almost every mob in abyssea with 3 people. i think abyssea is too weak. you know how long it took to solo genbu or serket backin the days. that was a honor. i am one of them players who been playing since it hit america. unlike some of the people who just started playing 2 3 years ago and have same number of 90's as me. i bet you dont even use <stal>
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