Lower The Minimum Level Required To Enter Abyssea from 30-1

[Boldheart]

I nominate Gunit as the troll of this board and Kuishen on his Bandwagon woot lol.... hmmm is your time this valuable to rant on about useless arguments. Cuz SE is the only one that can change this talk to them about it, and quit using up all there Bandwith lol.

[rog]

and quit using up all there Bandwith lol.

I highly doubt SE is too concerned about their bandwidth usage.

[Greatguardian]

ive always judged people on how they play, not based on who had what leveled. ive met some people in jungle parties that were much more capable and smart and knew their jobs better than people with several capped jobs. it is all based on the players, if they suck a their job, capped or not, they suck. gear, skills and job level wont change that.
i think it was a comedian who said it best, something along the lines of you cant fix stupid. i think he hit the nail on the head with that statement.

No, I agree with you completely on this. I was just pointing out what seems to be a driving force behind a lot of people on these boards: The assumption that having a level 75 job or beating maat gave them special bragging rights that are being lost now that these things are more common, when in fact those things were never really brag-worthy anyways.

[DrDelicious]

No, I agree with you completely on this. I was just pointing out what seems to be a driving force behind a lot of people on these boards: The assumption that having a level 75 job or beating maat gave them special bragging rights that are being lost now that these things are more common, when in fact those things were never really brag-worthy anyways.

yeah, THOSE people were the bags -o- douche that would tell a thf who to sata when their thief is only lvl 15. and theyre rational was that they had w, x, y, and z jobs leveled. ive met those people and im glad they can no longer brag about that. but coming from someone who solo'd 2 jobs to 75, (blm and nin) and solo'd all my merits for blm, i can tell you its a little sad that someone can do what i did in less time than i could get 10 merits. i used to love this game for the challenge of it, and yes, the grinding did suck, but i still did it. i just hope that lvl 99 provides some better challenges for us, both in and out of abyssea.

[Gunit]

I nominate Gunit as the troll of this board and Kuishen on his Bandwagon woot lol.... hmmm is your time this valuable to rant on about useless arguments. Cuz SE is the only one that can change this talk to them about it, and quit using up all there Bandwith lol.

I dont understand where I am ranting?
or Trolling for that matter
I have no problem with the way SE current has abyssea I am just trying to understand the reasons people what it changed.

[Odintius]

I'm a level 90 WHM. It was level 75 years before the level cap increase. I play WHM all the time. Sometimes I play RDM but mostly WHM. My healing magic skill has never, ever been capped. I think it is about 50 points below cap as of right now and I don't know many people who have it higher than I do.

Skill levels are sometimes subjective. Obviously not always. I wouldn't particularly care if a BRD did not have their dagger skill maxed out for example (extreme example obviously).

White mage and support job type's yes you don't necessarily need max skills to perform there jobs it the melee who can't hit the broad side of a barn with food that worries me.

[Greatguardian]

White mage and support job type's yes you don't necessarily need max skills to perform there jobs it the melee who can't hit the broad side of a barn with food that worries me.

Melees bad enough to not have skilled weapons actually use food?

Heck, bad players with capped skills actually use food?

[Mrbeansman]

yeah, THOSE people were the bags -o- douche that would tell a thf who to sata when their thief is only lvl 15. and theyre rational was that they had w, x, y, and z jobs leveled. ive met those people and im glad they can no longer brag about that. but coming from someone who solo'd 2 jobs to 75, (blm and nin) and solo'd all my merits for blm, i can tell you its a little sad that someone can do what i did in less time than i could get 10 merits. i used to love this game for the challenge of it, and yes, the grinding did suck, but i still did it. i just hope that lvl 99 provides some better challenges for us, both in and out of abyssea.

I believe you call that jealousy.

[Odintius]

Melees bad enough to not have skilled weapons actually use food?

Heck, bad players with capped skills actually use food?

Wouldn't suprise me lol

[DrDelicious]

I believe you call that jealousy.

jealousy? hardly. id just like to see players um-gimp themselves by seeing more non-abyssea content. atmas have become a crutch, and its becoming a serious problem. the xp boon in abyssea changed xp forever, and even if they took it up to 75, there would be so many players bitching about having to grind they would bring it back down. no one wants to grind, and the people who are saying bring the cap up, are mostly the old school people who actually did have to grind. but it taught you to be cautious. because xp WAS precious. a blm would spend a whole day on puddings getting their buffer back. now, its a 30 run in a dominion party. you die now, no big deal, but it used to be. and thats the problem.